@tlloydcline Mainline is still redeemable. Proportion of MPs holding a strong position are 1:2 to EPs, and since the other half of MPs are positioned as "somewhat" they aren't completely divested of Christian values.
@AngAesthetics@C2Antiquity Also it was Dyer himself who always mocked the Papal magisterium by pointing out it was circular and needed an infallible interpreter of the infallible interpreter. They are crypto-modernists who are scared of faith.
@AngAesthetics@C2Antiquity It's really a lack of trying that creates all the Cathodox slop one has to see online. It takes probably a weeks worth of effort to read Palmer, and see what he says about the Anglican position on this
Other than how they constantly obfuscate what "Protestant" actually means
Charles Wheatley (A Rational Illustration... [4th ed.; 1858], 26) on the ecclesiastical and civil power behind the Use of the Church of England, and the status of Dissenters/schismatics vis-a-vis this establishment:
Ordaining a Sodomite produces a valid but illicit act.
“Ordaining” a woman produces an invalid and illicit act.
“Ordaining” women is worse than ordaining a Sodomite, hence why allowing the former has always been followed by the latter.
I have several thoughts. I think much of the desire for bishops today depends on an idealistic view of the episcopacy, which does not correspond to the reality on the ground. Episcopacy inherently leads to a lot of political maneuvering for people who want those positions. Power corrupts, including ecclesiastical power. If you've ever spent time with ecclesiastical leaders in any large church body, this is obvious.
Also, what Protestant body with an episcopal structure has retained orthodoxy? It is consistently the case that, after the rise of Protestant liberalism, orthodoxy is more prominent among the laity than the clergy, with bishops often being the cause of the spread and enforcement of heterodoxy. I am not compelled by the argument that bishops are essential to the maintenance of orthodoxy. When the episcopacy is orthodox, it works fine, but when it is not, it can destroy the church.
As Lutherans understand the episcopal office to differ from the presbyterial office only by human rite, rather than functioning as an absolutely distinct office, there is flexibility in terms of exactly what and how much authority is granted to bishops. What the LCMS calls "DPs," or what we call our "Presiding Pastor," could certainly be renamed as bishops; this would be consistent with historic terminology, and thus preferable. However, if this means lifelong appointments and the loss of congregational authority, I think the negative impacts of such decisions would significantly outweigh the benefits.
Pope Leo criticized blanket “remigration” as a solution to the migrant crisis in Europe, saying it doesn’t respect the personhood of foreigners.
“Many times we don't recognize the reasons why these people had to leave their countries. Many reasons: violence, war, conflict. So simply saying, 'We'll send them away, so we can wash our hands of the problem,' doesn't seem like the most Christian response to me. We really need to look at the cases, and above all, treat people with respect as individuals.”
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