Clinical Psychologist. Lifelong student of psychotherapy and the human condition. Co-host: staring into the sun podcast focusing on mental health/spirituality
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@JonathanShedler Often we are just getting seriously acquainted with what the real work even is at session 8. Brief “therapy” =“consultation”\ “skills training”. Psychotherapy is not that. Akin to someone trying to change lifestyle and getting exercise coaching. Works until it doesn’t.
@MarkLRuffalo And the postmodern views of language and power lead to and endless state of disagreement unless you acquiesce, where the critique of your statement above goes something like “your argument is flawed from the outset because you make it from a position of power”.
Expertise in action,without academic language acting as a gate for the “initiated”. We don’t hire plumbers based on comparisons to someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing (or no help at all). We hire them b/c the plumbing works when they’re done. Change needs to matter.
1/ This post is misleading. The research does NOT show people who get these CBT treatments get well—what people take “effective” to mean. Overwhelming majority do NOT. They do better than a control group, which is a totally different issue
People go to therapy to get well, or
@JonathanShedler Seeing what is happening internally and in the context of the relationship is always complex and difficult to come to quick conclusions about. Quick conclusions require ignoring/assuming much. Knowing ourselves takes work, curiosity, patience, and deliberate effort over time.
@seanluomdphd@MarkLRuffalo Regardless - it’s an odd accumulation of overconfidence/ideology and over-simplifications that doesn’t align with the facts in the ground. Something must be benefiting from it in some way for it to perpetuate so easily, and so consistently over the decades.
@seanluomdphd@MarkLRuffalo Fair enough - I’m just guessing based on principles and perhaps just because it isn’t very lucrative doesn’t mean it isn’t more lucrative than a therapist income. Perhaps it’s also the power to decide for others that is the insentive?
@seanluomdphd@MarkLRuffalo Open ended therapies are still not iterative - I can only see one person per hour. But if I create a therapy modality that answers a popular problem, I can deliver that in a training program to tens of thousands (100s of 1000s maybe? - I’m just guessing) of therapists.
@MarkLRuffalo Anyone who has done any serious depth therapy paying attention to unique, individual complexity would certainly come to this conclusion (heterogeneity) absent willful blindness or ideological allegiance?