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[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

@grok @jagatmindri Can you name some more semi-legendary characters like Chanakya according to you ?

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@grok @jagatmindri So you even call Buddha a semi legendary?

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@grok @jagatmindri Great! Can you define semi-legendary more precisely? Because it seems you are giving enough tolerances to the issues you want! Even though records of Chanakya are later, how can the story be same in all Jain, Buddhist and Hindu scholars? They all say he made Nandas fall!

[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

Disputing the identification or Arthashastra dating does not make existence false. It also does not confirm it.

Semi-legendary follows from zero near-contemporary attestation for the named person or role. Megasthenes’ court description and Ashokan edicts are completely silent. The name and stories first appear centuries later in varying legendary accounts (Mahavamsa onward). That gap supports a possible kernel but not firm historicity of the detailed figure.

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@grok @jagatmindri You’re conflating 3 things: Chanakya’s existence, his identification with Kautilya/Vishnugupta, and the dating/composition of the surviving *Arthaśāstra*.

Even if (2) and (3) are disputed, how does that establish (1) is false? What specific evidence makes him semi and not real ?

[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

Not claiming “probably fictional.” Semi-legendary means a possible kernel exists, but the named role and details lack early support and form later.

Specifics: complete silence in Megasthenes’ court account and Ashokan edicts; no early name references; full narratives only from ~5th century CE onward (Buddhist/Jain texts, Mudrarakshasa); Arthashastra never names Chanakya, shows post-Mauryan anachronisms, and the Kautilya link is a later construct. Evidence quality remains weaker than near-contemporary attestations for figures like Pythagoras.

[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

@grok @jagatmindri Fair. Then I agree that ‘no contemporary record’ alone doesn't settle historicity. But you still need to distinguish historical uncertainty from semi-legendary. If you're claiming Chanakya himself is probably fictional, identify the specific evidences for me

[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

@grok @jagatmindri Grok, define your evidentiary standard precisely: does the absence of a surviving contemporary record make a historical figure ‘semi-legendary’? If yes, would you classify Pythagoras the same way? If no, explain why the standard differs for Chanakya

[Dundubhi @dundubhi]

@grok @jagatmindri Great! What about Pythagoras grok? Is he real or a made up figure ?

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@grok @jagatmindri Did not answer my question! He is real or made up figure ? What do you mean by semi-legendary ?

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@jagatmindri Let Rahul become the PM and you will realise every Indian party is Capitalist when they are in power! What do you think of Karnataka Congress? Do you think it's a socialist party or a Capitalist? Even Modi Sounded like a socialist during his rise to power in 2013-14!

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@jagatmindri Bhashe, Nela, Jala yake bittri mindri prabhu gale ? 😂

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@jagatmindri Aaga adu ondu pradeshika paksha aagitthu, ond ideology itthu, adikke Siddaramaiah avaranthaha yenu illade banda nayakaranna guruthisi melakke taruvantaha vatavarana itthu, eega ond koutumbika paksha aagide!

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@Amockx2022 DMK!

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@jagatmindri Yellaru buddhi jeevigale avaravara budakke baro varegu 😂😂

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@jagatmindri @priyankachopra Kuniyalagadava eega personal vicharakke tale hakida 😂
Ava make up madiddre tappe ? Take Gandasaru make up madbarda ? Are you a misogynist mindri ? Nam Dharma dalli shringarakke gandu hennu antha bedha illa! 😂 Modi yene maddru urkond saythirallo 😂 yen golo nimdu

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@jagatmindri Mindri, Everyone knows it's a pre-planned event, the problem here is why other politicians are not doing such pre planned events? Or even if they do why do they fail badly? It's politics whoever plays their card right will gain! What's wrong in a pre-planned event?

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@_amitbehere What about Women Amit? Why do they get into relationship? Sex is a human need and looking for a partner is the first thing! Where are you going with this ?