Its so interesting how saying lesbianism doesn't include men is terfy cus a terf could say it and mean it a completely different way but saying lesbians should be available to men isn't considered homophobic despite quite literally being a homophobic talking point
You do have a strong opinion, clearly. And im informing him that the terminology hes using is valid and just because it has a bad origin does not make it obsolete. But again you dont have to use nmlnm, wlw works fine then. Also i got blocked by op so I have to qrt lol
@elsfreckles@fleurs_alt@femmeabs …..i was simply informing them of the terminology they were using. as stated repeatedly i don’t have a strong opinion on the subject at hand, i disagree with how fleurs is reasoning themselves. please don’t put words in my mouth.
I got blocked but anyway I get it but its unnecessary especially when non man loving non man is already there. That person isnt arguing in good faith. They're upset you've pointed out how stupid it is to call yourself lesbian when youre a trans MAN
@elsfreckles@bbph3e@femmeabs I mean I don't mind updating the words I use if it's hurtful. It's longer but I can easily say women & enbies into other women & enbies. The meaning doesn't change just the acronym isn't included
@fleurs_alt@bbph3e@femmeabs Im fine with wlw in fact most lesbians prefer wlw so if thats what they want to go for! Great! but clearly they seem like theyre trying to find a loophole sortve like bi women do when trying to call themselves lesbian
@fleurs_alt@bbph3e@femmeabs This person seems weirdly invested in erasing lesbianism. A lot of words have bad origins doesnt make them obsolete. So either lesbian means wlw or non men loving non men. Anything else is erasure of lesbian women and our identity
@fleurs_alt@bbph3e@femmeabs the way they're speaking about trans men is crazy. Talking about how they're not really men bc they dont share the same manhood as cis men!1! but would they ever speak about trans women like that? literally everything they say about trans men can be easily applied to trans women.
@fleurs_alt@bbph3e@femmeabs Exactly like hello.... with that logic bi lesbian women are also valid and any other oxymoron. Its really gross how much people like disrespecting the lesbian label. no men included unless you believe trans men are women 🤷♀️
@nixmao even just kissing men and getting touched by them used to make me cringe and shudder so bad and make me want to throw up like we are not the sameeee
@kennixonette EXACTLY like i enjoy strap-on sex obviously but the thought of a man doing that to me with his real penis is so fucking disgusting. you cannot possibly be a lesbian if you can tolerate that