@annadashzvezda And you assume my point is also false? Both can be true, the new facility in Grayling Michigan will be served as the final assembly point moving forward. Both points are true, you wanted the US to stop importing finished rifles only right? Well there you go lol.
@annadashzvezda What? Are you slow? You’ve literally said nothing to refute what I just said, the Carl Gustaf 8.4cm is still assembled in the US, tell me where I’m wrong.
@annadashzvezda You do research lazyass lol, I literally just told you everything about where the Carl Gustaf was assembled in the US. What more do you want? Obviously not every component is manufactured in the states but at least final assembly is in the US.
@Goob_Goombas@0bserver4 Also to answer your question, neither, BAE Systems Inc. and Plc. are stock traded companies on the S&P 500. Owners are multinationals, with origins in NA and Europe heavily. I see you’re Indo, tell is PT Republik Roketsan Indonesia owned by Indo or Turkiye?
@Goob_Goombas@0bserver4 You have no clue how proprietary ownership works do you? BAE Systems plc. is British, BAE Systems Inc. is American, they have the same name but different origins. Ownership does not equate to overseas origin makeup. Dude you need to go to class right now instead of arguing.
@annadashzvezda Literally most modern militaries in the world still utilizes the US made amphibious assault vehicle (AAV) or have drawn similar productions from it (FNSS Zaha, KAAV-II). They procured the ACV because it fit their long term strategies of amphibious assault, what are u on abt?
@annadashzvezda The Carl Gustaf 84mm is a Swedish recoilless rifle procured with final assemblies in Grayling, Michigan, USA alongside the AT4, they also manufacturing munitions and provide support for said arms. Prior to this the US also domestically produced the M72 LAW so what do you mean?
@Goob_Goombas@0bserver4 Your logic makes no sense, that’s like saying the ASCOD 2 with Spanish and Austrian origin is American in nature because it’s made by GDELS/GDLS SBS. Literally as European in their name as well, they are European subsidiary companies that has ownership ties with GDLS proper.
@Goob_Goombas@0bserver4 Are you dumb? The US “Buy America Act” dictates military procurements be domestically produced with components being up to 65% American in origin. BAE Systems Inc. is the American subsidiary of BAE Systems plc. It owns factories in the US and the ACV is only made in the US.
@PedroTovark8@GrayHairedRider@GigglingGanon Technically yes but technically also no. They are Puerto Ricans, not Americans by default as they are an American territory not a state. They are subjected to American laws but their status is not in the same realm as a normal citizen. Passport as well, it is American but limited
@WTarbiat@nicholadrummond@GD_LandSystems@Horstman_Group@RheinmetallAG It would be possible as long as GDLS GB doesn’t mind handing over controls to GDLS proper and decreasing the % of domestic components. The GB branch has had a lot of issues in recent years implementing anything IFV related even with the mess of modification orders from the MOD.
@RyszardJonski The Lynx won’t be picked, clearance way too high and the tonnage will render it incapable of rapid deployable airlift. Wulf will most likely get the contract.
@BurtOxford@Eng_china5 The abroad mission was over, he stayed back to enjoy the local cultures and cuisine. You want him to wear a suit the entire time he was trying to enjoy a personal trip even if he was the CEO of Nvidia? Let the man breathe ffs, no one likes being in a suit for 16 hours.
@MartinXHendy@thinkdefence GDLS has nothing to do with Ajax’s issues and bad development, the problem lies with GD UK which is its own operating defense firm despite US ties and the MOD who keeps adding on unnecessary changes to befit their every wartime needs which led to this engineering nightmare.
@kapsel_90@M12RUS Tbf they are are useless except Poland and Turkey. Germany’s own general said back in 2023 that the entire army was ill-equipped and ill-ready for any kind of war. Stating the budget was highly inflated due to salaries and maintenance. It’s now 2026, they’re only NOW ramping up.
@EFFERCETAMOL@0bserver4 You can clearly see how the prototype’s metallic surfaces looks similar to the XTC-02’s prototypes in its unrefined surfaces, eventually this will be replaced by a more polished production iteration but this is definitely a sight for sore eyes. I love the new chonker.