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[Erion @erion0x]

I wanted to take a deeper look at some of these gambling streamers, how much they approximately earn and how much they would actually have to spend on their players when offering these huge rewards like 10-20% lossback, 2x weeklies, 2x monthlies, wagering milestones and everything else

to do this I decided to pick 4 streamers at random from the fairgambling streamers page, all ranked somewhere between the top 200 and 300

obviously I’m not gonna mention their names because this isn’t really about calling out specific streamers, I’m just using them to get a rough average of how much someone at that level gets paid compared to how much they would actually have to spend to cover the rewards they advertise

the average estimated monthly payment for these 4 streamers comes out to around $30k a month

this is paid in raw balance, so obviously the actual amount they end up cashing out can fluctuate a lot depending on how they gamble and how degen they are with it

but for this example I want to give the creator basically every possible advantage

so let’s assume they have a really good month and somehow manage to cash out exactly as much as they receive in fills

that means we’re giving them the full $30k as actual income for the month

all 4 of these streamers also run monthly leaderboards worth somewhere between $5k and $10k

looking at just the top 5 players on these leaderboards, the average combined weighted wager is already around $1M per month

and this part is pretty important because a lot of smaller gambling creators are heavily dependent on just a couple whales under their code, so a huge percentage of their total wager can come from only a handful of players

all of these creators also offer 2x weekly bonuses, and some of them even offer 2x monthlies too but let’s not even include that

with around $1M in weighted wager between slots and originals, let’s again go pretty low and assume those players generate around $3k in weekly bonuses

that’s roughly $12k in weekly bonuses over a month, which means the creator has to put up another $12k just to double those bonuses

then you also have the lossback

let’s assume that out of the $1M weighted wager these players lose around $30k for the entire month

and honestly $30k is probably still on the lower end because over time the casino has to expect the players under that creator to lose more than what they’re paying the streamer for the deal, otherwise the deal itself wouldn’t make much sense for the casino

at 15% lossback that’s another $4.5k the creator has to give back

all of these creators also offer some sort of wagering rewards, level up bonuses or bonus matching which is earned through wagering

the average from the ones I looked at is around $300 given out for every $250k wagered per player

so if we assume 4 players each wager $250k, that’s another $1.2k the creator has to give back

then you also have random giveaways and other promos

these obviously change creator to creator and month to month, but let’s use another roughly 4-5k across the entire month

so let’s add everything up

the creator managed to cash out the full $30k in our example

$12k went towards doubling weekly bonuses

$4.5k went towards 15% lossback on $30k in player losses

$1.2k went towards wagering rewards

another roughly 4-5k went towards giveaways and other promos

and then there’s the leaderboard

a lot of the time when you see these $5k-$10k leaderboards from creators who aren’t that big, the casino and creator are funding them 50/50

if we just use the middle and say it’s a $7.5k leaderboard, that means another $3.75k is coming out of the creator’s side

so now we’re at roughly $25.5k-$26.5k given back out of the $30k they managed to cash out

meaning after everything they’re left with somewhere around $3.5k-$4.5k

basically 12-15% of what they made that month

and remember we gave the creator basically every possible advantage here

we assumed they had a great month and somehow cashed out 100% of their fills

we still didn’t include 2x monthlies even though some of them offer it

we only used $30k in losses across $1M in weighted wager

we’re mostly looking at rewards going towards their biggest players and not every single person on the code

and we’re assuming nothing else unexpected comes up during the month

so even during a really good month where the creator gets the full $30k out, around 85%+ of what they made can already be going straight back into keeping players on their code

that leaves them with basically $4k for themselves

so what happens during a bad month?

what happens when they get $30k in fills but gamble badly and only manage to cash out $10k or $15k?

the promises to their players don’t suddenly disappear

the 2x weeklies still have to be paid, the lossback still has to be paid, wagering rewards still have to be paid, giveaways still happen and their part of the leaderboard still has to be funded

so this is where you have to start wondering how sustainable this actually is

is the entire model becoming dependent on constantly bringing in more wager and more players just to keep these rewards going in hoping for a better deal in the future?

because at some point you’re not even competing based on content anymore

one creator offers 10% lossback, another offers 15%

one offers 2x weekly, another offers 2x weekly + monthly

then you add wagering rewards, giveaways, bigger leaderboards and everything else

and eventually you have creators giving away almost everything they make just to keep a handful of high wagering players on their code

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@stevewilldoit moves up to #4 at $62M, while @Yassuo is a new entry at #9 with an estimated market value of $31.2M.

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[Erion @erion0x]

@hennyhamilton @stevewilldoit I don’t think people are saying these are bad stats - just not the most insane ones affiliate code wise but we also established he brings way more to the table than that

[Erion @erion0x]

we finally have the exact numbers behind Steve’s Gamdom deal

how much he gets paid, how much his players have deposited and how much he’s actually given back

I tried to put everything together and I’m curious what other creators and viewers think of the results and how well he’s actually doing

first off Steve officially joined Gamdom on August 13th so it’s been a little over a month since the partnership started

before we even get into how much he’s getting paid I think it’s important to understand that Steve isn’t your typical streamer who just does the required streams and hours and calls it a day

he currently has around 1M followers on X and 1.7M subscribers on YouTube where his videos regularly get millions of views

he’s wearing Gamdom merch in most of his content, he literally has a Gamdom tattoo and he’s also extremely active on X where he gets millions of impressions per day while constantly promoting the brand

so there’s obviously a lot more value here than just the hours he spends live

now let’s get into the actual deal

Steve said Gamdom gave him a $3.2M signing bonus and also wiped around $700k in debt when he joined

after that his deal is $800k per week which works out to around $3.2M a month sent directly to his Gamdom account

he also gets max benefits and rewards on the site with raises and bonuses on top of that

then there’s a 30% revenue share deal which means Steve gets 30% of whatever players under his code lose

right now that rev share is actually negative around $1.2M because his players are up roughly $4M so far

but Steve said even once that turns positive he doesn’t plan on keeping it and wants to put the money into some sort of raffle or jackpot for players under his code

on top of all this he’s constantly supporting other Gamdom streamers, runs a $150k monthly leaderboard and says he gives 7% of his withdrawals back to the community

his rewards website currently says he’s given away over $1.7M while he’s only withdrawn around $3M so far

so just based on those numbers he’s already given back more than half of everything he’s actually withdrawn during the partnership so far

now let’s look at the actual numbers under his affiliate code

Steve shared a screenshot showing over $21M in deposits and more than $25M in withdrawals so far

one important thing to mention is that around $3.7M of those deposits came from @Jelitics, an already existing player who made a new account under Steve’s code specifically to support him

so one player alone makes up nearly 20% of Steve’s total deposits

Steve has now been with Gamdom for around 5 weeks

at $800k per week that means Gamdom has paid him roughly $4M so far in weekly payments, not including the $3.2M signing bonus or the debt they wiped

and in that same period his code has brought in over $21M in deposits

so roughly 5x his weekly pay in deposits

personally I wouldn’t say these are the most insane affiliate numbers ever, but I also don’t think they tell the full story

Gamdom streamers seem way more active right now, you see the brand constantly on the timeline, Steve’s YouTube videos are getting millions of views and his X posts are doing millions of impressions

I’m sure Gamdom is looking at a lot more than just the raw numbers under his code when evaluating the deal

based on everything here how well do you think Steve is actually doing for Gamdom?

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[Erion @erion0x]

@lucakante @stevewilldoit yeah well said

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[Erion @erion0x]

@ThatsProfitBoys @stevewilldoit hahahaha I wouldn't say so and not all things I said are positive but still the man is putting in the work so you have to respect it 🫡

[Erion @erion0x]

@reggularMike @stevewilldoit yeah that's fair

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[Erion @erion0x]

@LyonzGambles appreciate your feedback 🤝

[Erion @erion0x]

@Jelitics A lot of streamers are also just on wager-share deals so they don't really care whether you win or lose

would you be fine using those streamers' codes?

[Erion @erion0x]

@NeoIntern Leaderboard (funded by the casino), 2x weekly bonus and wagering rewards are pretty standard I would say.

Once you start offering lossback 15%+ out of your own pocket then it can get tricky!

[Erion @erion0x]

I wanted to take a deeper look at some of these gambling streamers, how much they approximately earn and how much they would actually have to spend on their players when offering these huge rewards like 10-20% lossback, 2x weeklies, 2x monthlies, wagering milestones and everything else

to do this I decided to pick 4 streamers at random from the fairgambling streamers page, all ranked somewhere between the top 200 and 300

obviously I’m not gonna mention their names because this isn’t really about calling out specific streamers, I’m just using them to get a rough average of how much someone at that level gets paid compared to how much they would actually have to spend to cover the rewards they advertise

the average estimated monthly payment for these 4 streamers comes out to around $30k a month

this is paid in raw balance, so obviously the actual amount they end up cashing out can fluctuate a lot depending on how they gamble and how degen they are with it

but for this example I want to give the creator basically every possible advantage

so let’s assume they have a really good month and somehow manage to cash out exactly as much as they receive in fills

that means we’re giving them the full $30k as actual income for the month

all 4 of these streamers also run monthly leaderboards worth somewhere between $5k and $10k

looking at just the top 5 players on these leaderboards, the average combined weighted wager is already around $1M per month

and this part is pretty important because a lot of smaller gambling creators are heavily dependent on just a couple whales under their code, so a huge percentage of their total wager can come from only a handful of players

all of these creators also offer 2x weekly bonuses, and some of them even offer 2x monthlies too but let’s not even include that

with around $1M in weighted wager between slots and originals, let’s again go pretty low and assume those players generate around $3k in weekly bonuses

that’s roughly $12k in weekly bonuses over a month, which means the creator has to put up another $12k just to double those bonuses

then you also have the lossback

let’s assume that out of the $1M weighted wager these players lose around $30k for the entire month

and honestly $30k is probably still on the lower end because over time the casino has to expect the players under that creator to lose more than what they’re paying the streamer for the deal, otherwise the deal itself wouldn’t make much sense for the casino

at 15% lossback that’s another $4.5k the creator has to give back

all of these creators also offer some sort of wagering rewards, level up bonuses or bonus matching which is earned through wagering

the average from the ones I looked at is around $300 given out for every $250k wagered per player

so if we assume 4 players each wager $250k, that’s another $1.2k the creator has to give back

then you also have random giveaways and other promos

these obviously change creator to creator and month to month, but let’s use another roughly 4-5k across the entire month

so let’s add everything up

the creator managed to cash out the full $30k in our example

$12k went towards doubling weekly bonuses

$4.5k went towards 15% lossback on $30k in player losses

$1.2k went towards wagering rewards

another roughly 4-5k went towards giveaways and other promos

and then there’s the leaderboard

a lot of the time when you see these $5k-$10k leaderboards from creators who aren’t that big, the casino and creator are funding them 50/50

if we just use the middle and say it’s a $7.5k leaderboard, that means another $3.75k is coming out of the creator’s side

so now we’re at roughly $25.5k-$26.5k given back out of the $30k they managed to cash out

meaning after everything they’re left with somewhere around $3.5k-$4.5k

basically 12-15% of what they made that month

and remember we gave the creator basically every possible advantage here

we assumed they had a great month and somehow cashed out 100% of their fills

we still didn’t include 2x monthlies even though some of them offer it

we only used $30k in losses across $1M in weighted wager

we’re mostly looking at rewards going towards their biggest players and not every single person on the code

and we’re assuming nothing else unexpected comes up during the month

so even during a really good month where the creator gets the full $30k out, around 85%+ of what they made can already be going straight back into keeping players on their code

that leaves them with basically $4k for themselves

so what happens during a bad month?

what happens when they get $30k in fills but gamble badly and only manage to cash out $10k or $15k?

the promises to their players don’t suddenly disappear

the 2x weeklies still have to be paid, the lossback still has to be paid, wagering rewards still have to be paid, giveaways still happen and their part of the leaderboard still has to be funded

so this is where you have to start wondering how sustainable this actually is

is the entire model becoming dependent on constantly bringing in more wager and more players just to keep these rewards going in hoping for a better deal in the future?

because at some point you’re not even competing based on content anymore

one creator offers 10% lossback, another offers 15%

one offers 2x weekly, another offers 2x weekly + monthly

then you add wagering rewards, giveaways, bigger leaderboards and everything else

and eventually you have creators giving away almost everything they make just to keep a handful of high wagering players on their code

[Erion @erion0x]

a lot more sustainable when the casino is providing the lossback for sure

and yeah I agree it's still a guessing game especially when you're looking at a lot of different creators. I just also wouldn't want to focus on one streamer only and make it look like I'm singling them out

[Erion @erion0x]

agree there are a lot of variables and it’s definitely hard to get an exact number

that’s also why I didn’t want to single out one creator and make it seem like I’m putting them on blast, the idea was more to use a few examples and look at the model as a whole

happy to chat about it though especially the parts you think are untrue or wrong. would be interested to hear your view on those