@DarkoMihajlovs2@Knightofhonor18@amorastea@itshelenwhat Moral repercussions? Girl weโre in the 21st century no way you think GRRM included all the unnecessary prejudice and hardships faced by actual bastards in Westeros for his readers to come away thinking that bastards are immoral ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
@DarkoMihajlovs2@Knightofhonor18@amorastea@itshelenwhat Your example would involve Aegon saying it wasnโt rape, the victim saying it wasnt rape but Rhaenyra saying it was. The Velaryon boys are not illegitimate because they are accepted by all of their legal parents and grandparents. Different from cases like Alynโs and Addams
@Knightofhonor18@amorastea@itshelenwhat They need to be recognised as illegitimate to be considered bastards, otherwise itโs just rumours. Given that their legal father and grandfather accept them as Velaryons no one can actually consider them bastards legally, which is different from people like Alyn and Addam
@maidenvaults Headcanon that Kiera did not want her daughter to suffer for the crown so she told her to act dumb and then after the council they left and lived happily ever after in Tyrosh
@Knightofhonor18@amorastea@itshelenwhat Bastards have to be legally recognised as bastards tho. They are not recognised as such, Viserys and Rhaenyra and Laenor and Corlys (book Corlys at least) always upheld their legitimacy from birth, meaning they can never be recognised as bastards unless Rhaenyra or Viserys
@BigDickJohnJo@Anneeeta199734@Jacaelaerys No, in the books itโs agreed that they were almost certainly Corlysโ sons but that they said they were Laenors either to not disrespect Rhaenys and/or so they would inherit Driftmark over the dragon twins.
@ShinyResurgence IMO Meraxes probably only had one child, Quicksilver, who had no living children of her own and the rest of the dragons descend of Visenya as a mirror to the Targaryens descending from Rhaenys and Visenya only having 1 child who died without children of his own.
@ShinyResurgence This is a fan tree but also I highly doubt Vhagar only had Moondancer. She was known as a she-dragon at the time of the conquest and dragons are only really confirmed as female after they lay eggs.
@nyxiewing Also in a meta level, Lysa is regent in the main series probably as an echo of Sharra Arryn who was regent to her son during the Targaryens conquest of Westeros. Heyne is Lady paramount during the dance as a she is a TB ally and Rhaenyraโs cousin.
@JLimHospMD This is misinformation about #monkeypox. The outbreak is occurring almost entirely among men who have sex with me. Public health experts agree that sexual contact is the principle driver of transmission and have asserted that risk to kids remains *very low*.
@AtlantisFell@WonderXMen5 HOTD really hates showing women being traditionally feminine unless itโs to criticise them or show them in a negative light. Rhaenaโs arc being completely changed this way, and Rhaenyra saying shit about how leaders shouldnโt wear gowns and jewels just shows it
@Teslimatttt No. Even if he turned up they would only be considered bastards if it was confirmed both Rhaenyra and Daemon knew he was alive, which wouldnโt be confirmed as it would most likely be impossible to prove Rhaenyra had knowledge. Instead one of the marriages would be dissolved