@AstroRose20 Moralfagging for money and then mocking my appeal morals. Why should someone like you who doesn’t understand basic reasoning should get any money to think any further.
@sighyam As someone who lives in something akin to one of these, you should shut up. If I want to save more of my own money or live in a nice area which I otherwise I wouldn’t be able to afford I should get to choose something like this. Your dumbass doesn’t get to speak for me
@JohnRad15@todaystropics You just stated something is a need sometimes, so it doesn’t count as commerce to have it privately owned, otherwise capitalism would be commerce applied
@JohnRad15@todaystropics It actually isn’t, you’ve reduced your claim once again. Claiming is used as a need sometimes so therefore it shouldn’t be own, such caveat wasn’t used in your prior statement. And should needs not be owned?
@JohnRad15@todaystropics The position that lands has no doing in the production process, that it doesn’t have a function in the making of commodities, is ridiculous. land for agriculture, mining and factories are a means of production quite obviously
@JohnRad15@todaystropics The fact that land is treated as commodity doesn’t contradict the given definition, in fact it follows naturally if applied consistently
@JohnRad15@todaystropics But that isn’t what you claimed though, you said that private ownership of the means of production isn’t enough to describe capitalism because that includes land ownership
And that’s Econ 101, there is more to economics than supply and demand, how are the prices of the goods determined? By which means is the wage determined? You are using a stolen concept to revive LTV and most importantly its normative implications through the use of exploitation. But there is nothing to compare without the process that you consider illegitimate
@EmbitteredThe@PTMinarquista@Z_Leiva_@EconomiaMises@juanrallo Productivity?, and you deny LTV?, you are saying that the wage corresponds to an objective input towards the product. Also productivity is an average, not an actual quantitative input for the component of a specific good
@EmbitteredThe@PTMinarquista@Z_Leiva_@EconomiaMises@juanrallo I pointed it out but you just called it bullshitting. Neither the firm nor the employee are aware of the optimal wage and if we had that given the conditions would change such that we can’t assume that wage would remain the same.