For example, in my case, my family background shows no culture other than Siamese. But there's no way I'm purely Thai or Siamese. At the very least, I must have some Mon, Lao, or Chinese mixed in.
exactly💯 there was never a "pure Thai" lineage to begin with. Thai people, or just Siamese, came from a mixture of many different groups from the very start. So it isn't strange for Thai people to have other ancestry and still call themselves Thai.
I’m half Lao and Half Thai, which means I’m born to both parents from Lao PDR and Thailand, however my Thai side is a mix of Siamese (which is the group of assimilated Tai, Chinese, and Mon merged together) and also Isan Tai, and Chinese, but that entire half is just “Thai” for me.
The issue with non Thais is that they think “Thai” is a specific and unique group instead of a mix of different ethnic groups that came together, so when they think someone has Chinese or Isan, or another ancestry, they try to claim that person cannot be a real or full Thai. And when you ask them what a real Thai person is, that’s when their argument falls apart because it turns out they didn’t know what they were talking about.
Most Thai people have at least 3-4 ethnic backgrounds in them. Some may know about it, and some may not know at all. The lines between these groups faded a long time ago, because they lived together for so long that they blended into one people.
@DollyLLSDH2004 How much do you really know about that designer? His Instagram and YouTube clearly credit Burmese, Shan, Lanna, and Chinese influences. You’d have to be blind and deaf not to notice.
@yaki10356 And didn't you notice what I said that Burmese people have no problem with any other country that has a water festival, except Thailand? Why is that?
@yaki10356 Get a grip. Your Burmese friend says Thailand copied the water-splashing festival, but Thai people don't even know about Thingyan. So how could we have copied it from you when we didn't know it existed in the first place?
@xixyvn Lanna and Shan people understand each other's festivals. Nobody says "copied." When we see Burmese lanterns, we just think, "Wow, a similar tradition!" But Burmese people say we copied whenever something looks similar. Have you ever tried to understand your neighbors?
The relationship between the Shan and Siamese may not be particularly close, but the Shan and Lanna people are definitely close relatives. They share historical ties to the same ruling dynasty, the Mangrai dynasty.
@6aprildays It’s still in Burma so of course its our traditions. Ur history us just 800 years. We r 1000+ . shan and siamese are different even came from same roots. See how arakanese and burmese are different but same roots.
@xixyvn Can't you accept seeing similar festivals in other countries? Do sky lanterns have to exist only in Myanmar? You aren't angry at Shan, because Shan live in the same country as you, but you dislike it when Lanna does the same.
@xixyvn Shan and Lanna come from the same dynasty "Mengrai" I'm not saying the Shan were under Lanna's rule. I'm saying that's the reason for the similarities.
@xixyvn You said Shan and Siamese are different even though they share the same roots. But sorry, this tradition isn't Siamese. It's Lanna's, and Lanna is connected to Shan. So why do people in your country keep saying "copy"?
@xixyvn How can it be a "copy" when Lanna has practiced this tradition for a long time? It may not be as long as Burma, but does that mean it can't be called our tradition at all? In Thailand, only the North has this tradition, which clearly shows its interaction with Shan and Burmese.
@xixyvn So what's the root of this? Your compatriots see Lanna sky lanterns and say "copied from Burma," even though Lanna never claimed to be the sole origin. They may well have borrowed from the Shan or the Burmese. But your people only ever say "copy."
It's true. In Thailand, Pali-Sanskrit words are seen as more sacred (tied to religion), and we do say that Thais have pushed native Thai (Tai) words into lesser roles. But I like the contrast between the formal name-surname vs the nickname. it's funny 55555
The Thai will research for astrology codex for a perfect "good-looking" pseudo-indian full name (even though it's hard to read af)
And then their nickname is literally "FIFA" cuz their father likes football so much
The Thai will research for astrology codex for a perfect "good-looking" pseudo-indian full name (even though it's hard to read af)
And then their nickname is literally "FIFA" cuz their father likes football so much
Ramayana has become the highest Indian grossing movie in Thailand
If you want to know the reason just google the national animal of Thailand and the history behind it
Plenty of Thai shops do credit Burma, but they only focus on the ones that don't, and then "generalize" that every Thai person is like that. See the problem? It's the last part.
@Y42636851@mojimoj13628095 Bro, it's your friends who see Lanna sky lanterns and immediately blurt out "copy," even though the lanterns don't look alike at all. We tried telling them the lanterns look different, but they won't listen.
@katelaurarobin@6aprildays Good grief. Culture is never separate from its surroundings. Real Lanna people know what came from Burma and what came from the Shan. And we never claim batik as ours alone or as its origin. It's only you, the moment you see something similar, rush to blurt out the word "copy."
@katelaurarobin@6aprildays You should go and ask the Shan people whether they want to be associated with Burma. Shan people who come to work in Thailand are often very upset when we call them "Burmese." They told us they are clearly not Burmese. We are the ones who are actually their relatives, not you