Joseph P Gardling

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[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

Anyone remember when Craig Wright posted "signatures" from block 9 on the @satoshi account (via @andyrowe)?

People noted that these forgeries could be made by anyone.

But did you know that these particular signatures are *provably fake*? #FaketoshiFail

I'll explain...

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[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @etan_partai @pewresearch God doesn’t let you escape from axioms or circular logic. Sorry!

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @veganstreetwear What gives something moral value in your opinion?

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@awgaffney Presented in broad strokes, sure. But that doesn’t mean we ought to be fine with (hypothetically) spending 99% of healthcare funds on 1%.

The devil, of course, is in the details.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@icarus62 @SpiritOf_TheAge @NotEvolution1 Shhh! They don’t like logic.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@SpiritOf_TheAge @Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Right, I wasn’t saying harm and health are the same. I was using health as an example of *something else* that you need to bootstrap with an unproven assumption (axioms).

Go ahead and try to define health without any axioms.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @BRijswijk @darinsmith1974 @DeeWaynee94 In fact they *do* become immoral because they make the people undergoing those things “unpleasant” (in agony).

If you don’t agree that experiencing maximal unremitting pain with no “upside” is *bad*, then you’re just delusional or arguing in bad faith.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @PunishedChaos1 @DeeWaynee94 You’re dodging, because “with God” just smuggles in unproven axioms (or “circular reasoning” as you incorrectly put it).

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@SpiritOf_TheAge @Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 I was using a non-morality-based analogy to help them understand. Try to define “healthy” yourself. Or at least explain why shooting yourself in the gut with a shotgun is unhealthy.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Nope. They are just unproven assumptions. They’re not used to prove *themselves*, which would make them circular.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Religious folk use axioms, too, even if they don’t realize it.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 No. It’s just an axiom. Specifically, the axiom of extensionality. Look it up if you want.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Like try proving that two sets are equal if they have the same elements.

You can’t. It’s self-evident.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Nope, it’s just an axiom. Math has them, too, of course.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 Any moral system needs *some* axiomatic basis, obviously.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Sugzza @TonyStark429182 @DeeWaynee94 It’s self evident that it’s bad all else equal. It’s like asking why shooting yourself in the gut is unhealthy.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@sentinel_actual @PotatoMcWhiskey Is this what you write in on your ballot box?

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@sentinel_actual @Ciscopanda @SocDoneLeft > People being killed with AR-15s happens much less often than late term abortions

Not true, at least > 24 weeks.

Don't make shit up if you can't back it up.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@SherrerKadin @MediumSizeMeech What part of “assaulting him first” didn’t you understand?

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@ComputerSageJAB @FredLambert You’re not providing facts. You’re making excuses. “It was in jest” “it’s hard to go through customs”.

Those are weak excuses.

[Joseph P Gardling @gardling]

@Arvolear You should post a big warning that once the messages (or just their hashes) are known along with the signature/pubkey, the private key is leaked.