Steve

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage @robert964492 > I’m comfortable saying this plainly: I do not think “Satoshi said so” should be the final authority for a real-world payment system.

I don’t either! But when your chain’s entire identity is predicated on being the fruition of his exact vision….

[Steve @steverabinow]

@robert964492 @ProjectBabbage FWIW, he conceded that BSV doesn’t follow Satoshi’s edicts in that message (and the WP). https://t.co/0sYMiavetw

[Babbage | BRC100 @ProjectBabbage]

BSVers should actually be less dogmatic and own this one! It's a good academic point, but we are choosing to live in the real world.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage (But don’t pretend I have some peculiar narrow reading of Satoshi there. He’s extremely explicit.)

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage We already agreed.

https://t.co/OhnMYEJLR0

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage @BTFDGreg @WilliamShortss That’s BSV’s prerogative, but it’s not something Satoshi didn’t foresee and tell everyone about. It was part of the design from the beginning. You’re welcome to reject it and prefer a different design.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage @BTFDGreg @WilliamShortss That’s BSV’s prerogative, but it’s not something Satoshi didn’t foresee and tell everyone about. It was part of the design from the beginning. You’re welcome to reject it and prefer a different design.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage Appreciate it! Took a bit, but we finally came to agreement.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage And again, it's not that *I* disagree. It's that *Satoshi* disagreed. So stop bringing me into it.

[Steve @steverabinow]

> My position is simpler: I care less about winning “Satoshi’s Vision” as a slogan than about whether the system can function as real-world electronic cash.

It's not just a slogan in the BSV world. It's supposedly the entire point of the project, yet you all go opposite to the "key point".

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage https://t.co/GHcvc5Kl6p

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage I don't know why you keep switching to a sales pitch. You're welcome to your chain. The point is that you cannot honestly call it Satoshi's vision or design. That's it.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage https://t.co/GHcvc5Kl6p

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage I don't know why you keep switching to a sales pitch. You're welcome to your chain. The point is that you cannot honestly call it Satoshi's vision or design. That's it.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage I'm not even claiming it's *my own* view! My sole point this whole time has been that it's *very clearly* Satoshi's view, yet your chain is called BSV, where the SV stands for "Satoshi's Vision".

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage What exactly are you disputing?

* Satoshi said honest nodes should build upon attackers' (valid) blocks.
* BSV did the opposite in 2021.

Which of these two do you disagree with?

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage He called it a "key point", so it's not like some esoteric thing you can ignore.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage I don't know why you keep switching to a sales pitch. You're welcome to your chain. The point is that you cannot honestly call it Satoshi's vision or design. That's it.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage > But it does not answer the governance question raised by an attack: whether a withheld reorg used for double-spending should be treated as valid participation in that network’s honest history. BSV’s answer is no.

And Satoshi's explicit answer was yes.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage We agree:

* Satoshi said honest nodes should build upon attackers' (valid) blocks.
* BSV did the opposite in 2021.

Right?

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage > Bitcoin’s premise is honest nodes extending honest work

No. Honest nodes always extend longest valid chain.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage @BTFDGreg @WilliamShortss > should miners, exchanges, businesses, and users endorse an attack because it contains valid PoW

Satoshi explicitly said yes.

> BSV chose the latter.

I know. The point is that BSV is supposedly Satoshi's vision but it in fact goes against it.

[Steve @steverabinow]

@ProjectBabbage @BTFDGreg @WilliamShortss > Dishonest attack histories can also be rejected when the network’s honest participants refuse to make them final.

Directly contrary to Satoshi's design and words. Remind me what BSV stands for again?