@TunderBoomers@Osint613 If that is true nothing from discovery will discredit the defamation claims. Discovery will also help ascertain if there is any merit to the amount of damages Trump claims resulted from the misleading edit. That is how our legal system works.
@TunderBoomers@Osint613 Trump $10b claim is the BBC damaged "the value of his brand, properties, and businesses." Discovery is required to obtain evidence that confirms or challenges that.
The maipulated edit if it's consistent w/his intent is not enough. Determing intent is also why there is discovery.
@CarolMeijers@__dwr__@NeilFlochMD ACA doesn't prevent doctors from opening a practice and choosing not to accept insurance or medicare and directly charge for services.
Medicare and private insurance use market power to dictate what they are willing to pay. Hospitals and doctors could choose not to participate.
@InvestMueller@ICannot_Enough Did law enforcement make a statement that the driver in this crash was operating the car with a Cadillac “automated driving assistance system” or similar? If so, you have a point, the media should have made mfg clear. If not the mfg and model of the car is irrelevant.
@Bjeli21@C_S_Skeptic Yeah, I used the wrong term. I think all the claims as to what/who is responsible is premature. That cannot accurately be determined based on Tesla’s statement or the initial reporting w/o first knowing what happened in the seconds preceding the mashing of the accelerator.
@Bjeli21@C_S_Skeptic Was it disabled prior to the driver mashing the accelerator?
If it wasn't did FSD do something unexpected contributing to the driver panicking and making a mistake mashing the wrong pedal.
Answers would/should determine if Tesla should be at least partially liable for the crash
@Teslarati On this story, media reported the facts, they reported law enforcement stated the driver was operating the car “with an automated driving assistance system. They reported that Tesla didn't respond. All accurate. Frustration w/media on this story is misplaced.
@DBurkland With the set of facts the media had what would have been acceptable headline? Law enforcement strongly suggested autopilot was engaged. Media accurately reported the law enforcement statement. Tesla chose not to comment. Any frustration w/the media here is misguided.
@OverlyTrev@FredLambert Your ignoring the question the answer to which which would absolve Tesla or not.
What happened in the seconds preceeding the mashing of the accelerator and overriding the system?
Did FSD do anything out of the ordinary that contributed to a panic response and the tragic mistake?
@congressdj@michael_on_x_ Without a comment from Tesla, with the direct comment from law enforcement what other framing would you expect that wouldn't put them in a position of rightfully being accused of running PR for Tesla (i.e. ignoring or downplaying law enforcement's statements)?
@DaBuisneZ@congressdj What should be investigated is what happened in the 5-10 seconds before the accelerator was floored. 100% human error or did autopilot do something unexpected and the driver paniced and smashed the accelerator instead of the brake.
@ironsharpmike@JonBryant421 They did reach out and Tesla did not respond. Initital reporting of an incident like this is not an investigative piece. They reported facts of what happened including the law enforcement statement that the driver was operating with “with an automated driving assistance system".
@pbush25@teslatonomy@jeremyjudkins_ It is a fact that officials did say the driver was operating the vehicle "with an automated driving assistance system". Tesla didn't respond to contradict law enforcements statement or it would have been included. There is nothing wrong w/headlines that include "officials say".
@thejefflutz There is nothing inaccurate about the NYT headline
Did a Tesla driver crash into a house? Yes
Did a woman die? Yes
Did the sheriff’s office say the driver was using an automated driving assistance system? Yes
@congressdj@nytimes@ABC It wasn’t an investigation piece. It was basic reporting of the facts. They accurately reported that law enforcement stated the driver was using “an automated driving assistance system,” and that Tesla didn’t respond to contradictory what the sheriffs office put on the record.
@jchybow@Tesla@elonmusk Did a Tesla crash into a house and kill someone? Yes. Did officials state that the driver was using “an automated driving assistance system,”? Yes
Misplaced outrage. If you want to be outraged it should be w:the sheriff’s office - not MSM for accurately reporting what was said
@RJTesla@SawyerMerritt You are projecting details not in most of the stories. Example - NY Times reported Tesla crashed into house, someone was killed and officials said the driver had automated driving assistance enabled. None of that is guess work, 100% of that is verifiably correct.
@Slatedgray@SawyerMerritt@nytimes@Tesla@elonmusk What do they need to correct? Their headline clearly said officials said the driver was using autopilot. Are you insinuating they got it wrong - that the sheriff’s office never said that?
@AllaC83@OverlyTrev This is a basic reporting piece, not an in depth analysis. Media reported basic facts - car crashed into house, killed a person and the sherriff's office statement that “an automated driving assistance system" was being used. There is nothing wrong w/how media reported this.
@GeigerTweeter@SawyerMerritt@nytimes The article says they contacted Tesla who didn't respond. Officials did say the Tesla Driver was using autopilot. The card did crash into a home and did kill a woman. Headline is fine and no need to spike basic reporting like this if Tesla is unresponsive.