Javier Gonzalez

Physiologist interested in human fuel use #nutrition | #exercise | #carbohydrate | #metabolism | #cycling | #science

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

What happens if people restrict either dietary #sugar or all carbohydrates (#ketogenic diet)?

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Our latest 📝 assessed energy expenditure 🏃‍♀️, energy intake 🍽️ metabolism 🩸💪🏻 and other outcomes

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[James Betts @DrBSteamjets]

Now this is an experiment I've wanted to do for years - well done to Max and Brad for getting it done. Caffeine didn't accelerate muscle glycogen resynthesis in recovery from running. Out now in @JNutritionPhys https://t.co/dMi7oFFbyU

[Sam Tsimikas, MD @Lpa_Doc]

Hi all,
The Lp(a) HORIZON trial has released topline data and, quite shockingly, missed its primary endpoint.
In other words, lowering Lp(a) in patients with prior MI, stroke or peripheral arterial disease, who were otherwise very well treated for LDL-C, blood pressure, diabetes and other risk factors, did not reduce the primary cardiovascular endpoint.
We obviously need to see the full data before making firm conclusions, and I don’t want to speculate too much without the details.
But this is a big enough result that it is worth summarizing what we know, what we don’t know, and what this may mean for our patients after 20+ years of trying to test the “Lp(a) hypothesis.”
What we know:
1-There are hundreds if not thousands of genetic, epidemiologic and Mendelian-randomization studies showing that elevated Lp(a) is associated with MI, stroke, peripheral arterial disease and aortic stenosis. That body of evidence is very strong.
2-However, much of those data come from community-based populations, often before the era of intensive LDL-C lowering and modern secondary prevention.
3-There has been much less information about how much residual risk Lp(a) carries in someone who has already had an event and is then treated very aggressively.
4-HORIZON may have had some of the best-treated patients of any recent cardiovascular outcomes trial.
Baseline LDL-C was about 65 mg/dL, a measured LDL-C contains the cholesterol carried on Lp(a), so in reality, 15-20 points lower.
5-In patients with very high Lp(a), if you correct LDL-C for Lp(a)-cholesterol, the actual LDL-C carried by LDL particles may have been closer to 45–50 mg/dL, perhaps even lower in some patients.
6-This raises a very basic question:
Can you still demonstrate a major incremental benefit from lowering another apoB-containing particle when the underlying LDL burden has already been driven this low?

What we don’t know:
1-What was the actual corrected LDL-C in these patients? I think it would be extremely informative to directly measure Lp(a)-C and calculate corrected LDL-C. This may tell us a lot about the biological setting in which pelacarsen was being tested.
2- What was the OxPL status? Our prior work has suggested that much of the pro-inflammatory biology associated with Lp(a) is related to its enrichment in oxidized phospholipids. Did OxPL fall? Did patients with higher OxPL derive more benefit? Was Lp(a) concentration actually identifying the patients with the most pathogenic particles?
3- Did we measure the right component of Lp(a) for trial inclusion? We generally measure molar particle concentration. But is molar concentration itself the main driver of risk, or is it partly a surrogate for what the particle carries? Cholesterol? Triglycerides? Oxidized phospholipids? Other proteins? Could two patients with the same Lp(a) concentration have very different Lp(a)-mediated risk? I think this question deserves much more attention.
3- Were the genetic data telling us exactly what we thought they were telling us? The genetic data are extremely compelling, but genetics reflect lifelong exposure. A clinical trial treats patients late in life, often after decades of arterial injury and after an event has already occurred. Those are not necessarily the same experiment. Could there also be some unrecognized biology linked to the LPA locus that we have not completely accounted for? That possibility should at least be considered.
3- Does very low LDL-C modify the Lp(a) risk relationship? Maybe Lp(a) is particularly important when LDL-C is higher, but its contribution becomes smaller once LDL-C is driven to very low levels. Again, we need the data.
4- Does aspirin or other antiplatelet therapy reduce part of the risk associated with Lp(a)? Lp(a) has potentially important prothrombotic effects. Almost everyone in a trial like HORIZON is receiving contemporary antiplatelet therapy. Could that blunt one component of the risk associated with Lp(a)?
5- Why are these patients still having events? This may be one of the most interesting questions of all. These are patients with LDL-C around 65 mg/dL, and perhaps corrected LDL-C substantially lower, yet cardiovascular events continue to occur. What is driving that residual risk? Inflammation? Thrombosis? Plaque burden that is already too advanced? Other lipoprotein characteristics? Something we are not measuring?
6- Do we need to re-examine some basic assumptions about atherosclerosis? We have spent decades focusing heavily on the quantity of circulating lipoproteins. But perhaps lipoproteins are relatively benign until they undergo biological modification in the artery wall. Oxidation may be one of those key modifications. For some patients, the answer may be to remove more particles from the circulation. For others, perhaps the better approach is to prevent their oxidation or block the downstream biological effects of oxidized lipids. The recent difficulties with anti-inflammatory approaches, including IL-6 inhibition, make these mechanistic questions even more interesting.
7- Was there something specific about pelacarsen, the degree or timing of Lp(a) lowering, advanced disease, trial duration, background therapy or patient selection that mitigated a potential benefit? We simply don’t know yet. That is why the detailed results will be so important.
What does this mean for patients today?
If you have already had an MI, stroke or PAD, the immediate lesson is very clear:
1- Get all of your established risk factors treated aggressively.
2- Get LDL-C/apoB very low.
3- Control blood pressure.
4- Control diabetes.
5- Don’t smoke.
6- Use appropriate antiplatelet and other guideline-directed therapies.
HORIZON shows us what modern secondary prevention should look like.
If you have elevated Lp(a) but have never had an event, the genetic and epidemiologic data still suggest increased lifetime risk.
Until the other 4 outcome trials read out, I would continue to treat every modifiable risk factor aggressively.
We should wait for those trials before drawing broad conclusions about the entire field.
I think the story of Lp(a) therapy is beginning, not ending.
We also need to show tremendous respect and gratitude to the patients who participated in HORIZON and to the investigators and companies that invested enormous resources to actually test the Lp(a) hypothesis, to the ultimate benefit to peole with elevated Lp(a) to best guide how to manage risk.

More to come as we go forward.

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

Lower insulin response to lactose & sucrose vs maltodextrin may contribute to higher circulating lipids. Insulin directly & indirectly suppresses lipoprotein production & and stimulates lipoprotein clearance by lipoprotein lipase in adipose tissue

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

Is de novo lipogenesis intrinsically unhealthy?

It may depend on the fate of the de novo synthesised fatty acids...

adipose tissue may be metabolically the safest way to store excess energy (adipose tissue is the professional energy storage organ)

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

In our recent study (https://t.co/xSgHh5xaoI) we found that de novo synthesised lipids make a minor contribution to increases in postprandial circulating lipids with ingestion of sugars. What then, explains the postprandial increase in circulating lipids with sugar ingestion?

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

Nope…

https://t.co/ZGSnCwmppJ

May be of interest @davidludwigmd @theproof @ChrisWillx

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

It is often claimed that carbohydrates that produce a high glucose and insulin response stimulate de novo lipogenesis (DNL; conversion of non-lipid substrates such as carbohydrates, into lipid)

If this is the case, maltodextrin should potently stimulate DNL, does it?… (1/2)

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

@DrewStearns @CNEM_Bath @OCDEM @TheBHF Try this one https://t.co/ZGSnCwmppJ

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

LACTOSE & SUCROSE EACH STIMULATE DE NOVO LIPOGENESIS

Latest paper from @CNEM_Bath in collaboration with @OCDEM
funded by @TheBHF

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📝 https://t.co/xSgHh5xaoI

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

@DrewStearns @CNEM_Bath @OCDEM @TheBHF I think its just taking time to come online. It is the correct DOI...

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

@nick_krontiris Thanks - does this one work? https://t.co/ZGSnCwmppJ

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

Thanks to all participants, collaborators and funders (@TheBHF) of this work.

We look forward to learning more about the metabolism of milk sugars in our ongoing work

https://t.co/xSgHh5xaoI

[Javier Gonzalez @Gonzalez_JT]

What this mechanism is is unclear, but may relate more to lactate metabolism that uric acid metabolism