mass vanguard

What's outside the window?

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@internatlevin @kayrosso1 This is pretty straightforwardly describing a revolution.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@sclv The max isn't that different from how Erfurt or RSDLP programs put it.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

After 5 years of writing various versions of a document like this cross-tendency and by specific caucuses, we finally have a revolutionary political program that is written concisely and persuasively and contains the necessary min-max political content!

https://t.co/1gE0aOJJJB

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@SoiSoiSoiSo1 The next two points. Preference for deliberative democracy is part of why we call to abolish the independent presidency.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@AbrekZaur Our Kautsky hasn't written a commentary on the program yet.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@kayrosso1 Getting more specific about the planning system is a vital theoretical task, but should be the subject of a wider debate rather than being focused on in the program which defines pur party identity.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@kayrosso1 It says about as much about it as historical socialist revolutionary maximum programs like erfurt, rsdlp, spa, hainfeld etc did. Communism is the goal, but emerges as the result of a transition period that begins with the working class coming to power politically.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

Come to the launch call today to learn more: https://t.co/uR4m9iTzxS

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@VoidOfRoses @KraushTakes The radical republican tradition has long rejected plebiscites as bypassing deliberative bodies and favoring personalist despotism.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@VoidOfRoses @KraushTakes WFP doesn't have a sovereign convention of proportionally elected delegates. It has a board composed of affiliated nonprofit directors and union. Not at all comparable to DSA's deliberative democratic structure.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

You're going to have to shill for somebody, yes indeed.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 True - we need to struggle to get the organization to live up to its democratically adopted self conception!

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 Kinda like this?

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 The alternatives are putschism and ministerialism. Which one are you arguing for?

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@erraticleninist No we want to subordinate the executive to our congress like the new workers deserve more calls for.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@316Kenzie Gotta target all the age brackets.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 I think there's a difference here where you're using program to mean tactics, which I agree are flexible. In my usage, program refers to the aims of the party, both for communism and the immediate measures associated with working class role, which unifies its members.

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 What's the alternative to being an opposition party with a revolutionary program for state transformation? Becoming a party of government under the state form of bourgeois class dictatorship?

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@thirdintl @workertenant @Yeah0419 https://t.co/A8m8Rmg7Gq

[mass vanguard @gracchusstrupp]

@workertenant Not yet even - launch call is Tuesday!
https://t.co/04QE2XlyYb