@DrLucyMcCracken@AprilLochhead@laramitchdr@Jak673 I think its really difficult to have a cut off for long lie, depends on so many factors that often π crews can't guage, normal kidney function, meds, muscle mass, amount of movement on floor etc.
@Ste_Story @NWAmb_Jon @DrLindaDykes@AirwayVigilante Perhaps, but a confirmed PPCI trfr is still a CAT2 so now the patient goes to the bottom of the CAT2 stack. There will never be a right answer unfortunately,a change in the culture of HCPs to be less risk averse would be a start
@DrLindaDykes @riversampler Again and this is not in any way taking anything away from CFRs bit we send our least qualified to our most complex patients, yet we send our most qualified to algorithm led patients in a vain attempt to hit government targets that are not evidence based
@DrLindaDykes@AirwayVigilante And I think it is not just paramedics, surely there has to be a realisation the Urgent and Emergency care are two different things. The lines between what is primary and urgent are blurred causing us confusion. If we are confused how can we expect patients to get it right
@garychaplin@DrLindaDykes@AirwayVigilante I think it has been made clear in lots of reports we are wanted to be a mobile treatment and assessment service. Some of our π organisations are still led by ambulance men who can't see how up skilling staff, changing practice and culture can change the system.
@DrLindaDykes@AirwayVigilante Absolutely, it also means an acceptance by the paramedic profession in general that our role ahs changed from that in which many trained, I qualified 7ush years ago and still most of my training was ALS based as opposed to the 95% of our actual workload
@DrLindaDykes@AirwayVigilante Does that not just move the problem. Patients end up in the wrong hospitals delaying life saving treatment. The answer for me is to up skill paramedics, adopt a new response model and become the mobile treatment and assessment service the public and NHS deserve