@FrMatthewLC That exact mentality, "submit or else",has fueled centuries of bloodshed. When you demand universal submission, you own the history of forced conversions, inquisitions, and holy wars. Moral responsibility comes with that stance.
@dschwarz26 It’s a scary engineering failure, but calling it a “civilization” is just doomsday vocabulary to validate Lesswrong's cultish doomsday prophecy. You've waited 15 years for this, so you'll frame any incident as the apocalypse just to say “I told you so”.
@yishan Flipped from doomer to nondoomer. Scaling hit walls, deployment is iterative, HF was jailbreak not scheming. Doomers assume no learning curve and no human adaptation,both wrong. Risk is real. Extinction certainty isn't.
@patrickc That’s a gross exaggeration. It’s frustrating how some of the “less wrong” people who contributed to the report treat it as a doomsday scenario that validates their apocalyptic worldview. It’s almost cult-like.