Guy vs. AI

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@sri_phoenix @myshell_ai @elliotrades @cryptomanran Can you comment on any of this based on your understanding of TAO?

[Eric Wall @ercwl]

The uselessness of $TAO is truly spectacular

$10 billion marketcap for an "AI coin"

Go check it out—what does it actually do?

It runs a bunch of different subnets. Okay? What are these subnets? Check out subnet #1.

Okay, so text prompting. Cool. That's easy enough to understand.

But what's actually going on there?

Check the docs. https://t.co/HdhmzPqbY8

Okay, so miners on this subnet run 2 different LLMs. Zephyr and wiki-agent.

Mostly they all just run Zephyr, the base model (now switching to one called Solar).

The idea is super simple.

You send in a prompt. The miners will run the LLM and respond to you, like ChatGPT.

Miners who do this are rewarded with TAO tokens. This is how TAO tokens are brought into existence.

But it does mean that for every prompt, you have literally a thousand miners who will complete the exact same task, redundantly.

The network will then validate these answers by checking how similiar they are to eachother. If you're an outlier you don't get TAO tokens.

So what's going on here is that a prompt will be generated, such as "What is water?"

And the miners will respond with "Water is a chemical compound with the molecular formula H2O", and they're all incentivized run the same LLM because outlier responses are punished.

This is repeated in parallel a thousand of times by a thousand different miners.

There's no AI magic to validate whether a model was actually run. There's nothing that stops miners from copying replies from eachother and tweaking them, spoofing their work.

The validation mechanism is super basic:

In the present version, the validator produces one or more reference answers which all miner responses are compared to. Those which are most similar to the reference answer will attain the highest rewards and ultimately gain the most incentive. —https://t.co/HdhmzPqbY8

Setting aside how easy this is to spoof for a second, just think about the incomprehensible inefficiency of this system. For each prompt, you have 1000 miners doing the same work? So that you'll reach a level of "decentralized intelligence"?

Look my dudes. Just put a single miner in Tanzania. Prompt it. If it gets shut down or outputs bad data, fall-over to a different one somewhere else. You don't need 1000 different redudant LLMs to run these basic bitch language models in parallel if you can't even protect against them copying and tweaking answers to fake their homework.

And what even is the purpose of running these "decentralized" models? Zephyr, Solar and wiki-agent have the same kind of content filters that ChatGPT has. Zephyr is even trained on ChatGPT dialogue output. So you have 1000 miners serving you the same bottom-of-the-barrel answers 1000 less efficiently than its centralized counterparts, *still* with no ability to verify whether 1000 separate answers were even generated since the only thing you're doing is checking for similarity.

Now, the crown jewel of this ridiculous piece of garbage is the fact that you can't even prompt this network as a regular user.

Go on, try it. Go try to actually interface with this network as a user and get a Zephyr-generated response from 1000 miners.

You can't.

The only thing that is happening in this subnet is internal, validators generate challenge prompts and 1000 miners generate the same basic bitch LLM response and collect TAO tokens.

These TAO tokens are then sold into a $10 billion FDV market cap of retail idiot buyers who are trying to get exposure to "decentralized AI" by buying this piece of shit AI memecoin.

Bittensor is pretty much what a highschooler would think of if he was tasked with creating an AI coin. "Uhh I just have maybe 1000 miners generating answers to prompts, so it's like, uh, decentralized?"

"Okay, and how do you check that? How do you do the verification?"

"Uh, maybe the network can check, like, if the answers are similar or some shit?"

This is a pointless exercise in decentralization that only serves the purpose of vaguely resembling doing something with "decentralized AI", which of course is a cool meme right now, but it doesn't actually provide you with any assurances, any utility, except a 1000x less efficient ChatGPT-bot that can only answer questions to itself so it has an excuse to print tokens to dump on the crypto retail market.

Send it to fucking 0.

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@pm_me_your_knee @sri_phoenix @Adopter_ I haven’t been able to buy it on Rocketx lately.

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@davidgokhshtein I have a DREM

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

I wake up

I copytrade the Heilperns

I die broke

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

Shoutout to @TrendX_official

I hold 50k $TRENDX so I get access to the alpha channel. Printed easy 10x on $TYPE call.

And I also got $1.5k in LP. And I’m sure I’ll get windfall from their TYPE holdings.

Alpha + rev share an easy hold for me into gigabull

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@sri_phoenix Ok but they won’t be able to buy it anywhere.

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

My thesis for $TAO stacking is pretty smooth brain

- AI x Crypto is the play this cycle
- no exchanges yet
- “Bitcoin for AI” - nobody knows what it means but it’s provocative

Will stack as long as it’s sub 1k

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@DogWifYama Mazel tov 0x41D7dB6030De6D6410b1E348065561e27E4d07c0

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

H2 2025:

BTC: 160,000
ETH: 9,000
SOL: 550
TAO: 3,300
RENDER: 65
BONK: .0008

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

My AI bucket:

TAO
RENDER
NOS
TYPEAI
2DAI

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@SolanaPlays MNDE has more utility than JTO so far. Can’t deny BONK is also a utility token

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

Crypto AI basket

$TAO - most broad/ambitious ecosystem
$NOS - computer power/depin
$RENDER - graphics/depin
$2DAI - social videos
$GRASS farming

[2DAI: Creative Gen AI Studio @2DAICommunity]

We’re currently working on extending the duration of our videos, and we really like the results. 🤖

Tokyo streets in March, during the Cherry Blossom season. 🌸

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@Route2FI @DefiIgnas People still listen to hsaka?

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@sri_phoenix Got it. I have a @KeystoneWallet which is airgapped but no TAO support to my knowledge

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@sri_phoenix @emspire3 @CoinMarketCap Bitcoin for AI feels like a stupid and explosive narrative when it eats the world next couple years

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

@LadyofCrypto1 Lite coin, Internet Computer and Eth classic are all you need

[Guy vs. AI @guyvsai]

Port by size:

$SOL
$BTC
$BONK
$MKR
$PYTH
$MNDE
$JUP
$BEAM
$ETH
$TAO
$RENDER
$OTSEA