@RubenLaukkonen "We argue that emotion is the computational solution to the intractability of survival, the evolutionary reason brains became conscious..."
Still begging the question. How does computation generate emotion? Overall great framework, but does not address the hard problem.
@DanielleFong I found interesting @LuisvonAhn's old talk presenting a fix where the AI kept us around to perform human-based computation tasks that they still couldn't figure out. The Matrix is just post-singularity duo-lingo.
@leecronin Suffering from PTSD (Post-tangled stress disorder)?
Even using say Pearl's do-calculus to go beyond Hume's classic objections, the resulting picture of QM needed to account for current empirical data seems rife with its own type of woo as you call it.
@MattPirkowski Subjectivity is not a pattern or information, it's what experiences the patterns and information. Knowledge is understanding, and understanding is a subjective experience, not an arrangement of objects.
@MattPirkowski People don't attribute agency or personage to libraries like they're trying to do with AI, that's projection. You should absolutely care about the terms you use and think more carefully or else you end up with muddled ideas like information creates consciousness.
@MattPirkowski You cannot flatten hermeneutical space, where knowledge resides,and where the concept of information comes from, into the mere bits of information that are represented in the objects.
@JasonColavito@AlexAlleman@capt_grenville Not a Theil fan, but his point is cogent when thinking about asymptotic limits of a developing society converging upon attractor states, alien or otherwise. And what hubris do we have to confidently assume to be true things about space aliens? Such science is still in infancy.
It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of physicalism. #idealism#process
"It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism." -Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek
@IntuitMachine Apophatic and tautological answers become necessary when it's a fundamental axiom. "Preconditions of definition itself" is almost self-referential enough to be a good one. Save the Picard face for pseudo-technical answers that think computation = consciousness makes sense.
@mikeamark The lack of a thoughtful metaphysics (and the denial of metaphysical possibility at all) is what leads people to believe that transistors flipping voltage thresholds in aggregate is equivalent (or even superior) to a person.
@TOEwithCurt One of the fundamental aspects of the ultimate foundation of reality: Being, Consciousness, Bliss. It is a brute fact, an axiom, of reality, and not an emergent or constructed phenomenon. It is the eternal subjective background behind all transient objective foregrounds.
@sbkaufman Occam's razor within a late-stage paradigm will lead to such a non-sensical yet parsimonious answers that seem explanatory, but that's a failing of such heuristics at inflection points, and the correct move is to expand the paradigm.
@sbkaufman Computationalist or functionalist philosophy of mind is so much weirder than even the more speculative post-physicalist ontologies. What does it mean to say feelings and subjectivity emerge from information processing algorithms? It sounds explanatory, but to me it's obfuscation