The Holy Land is the size of New Jersey. It has 10 million people and could easily hold 10 million more.
When Jews began moving there in large numbers in the late 1800's there were only 275,000 people in the land. There was plenty of room for everyone.
Jews moved there legally, bought land legally.
The Arabs didn't like the Jews there so they committed multiple attacks on Jewish communities, including in 1929 when they destroyed the Jewish community of Hebron that had been there for centuries.
Some Jews attacked back, and the Arabs attacked more, back and forth. It was clear that coexistence in one state was not going to work.
Then, in 1948, when a plan was drawn up to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, the Palestinians and five Arab nations rejected the plan and attacked with the intent of killing every Jew in Israel. That was their stated goal.
They tried to Nakba the Jews, and when the Jews miraculously won the war, they Nakbad the Palestinians instead by not allowing them to return to the areas they fled.
Because they had to keep the territory they captured lest the Arabs tried to launch another genocidal war. The Jews were right, and the Arabs tried again in 1967 to genocide everyone in Israel in a war.
It's been almost 80 years since the founding of Israel. Almost no Palestinians who experienced the Nakba are alive. Neither are the Israelis who fought in that war in 1948. We are now dealing with their grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
Read the prophecies in the Bible.
It says the Israelites will be exiled among all the nations from one end of the globe to other, they will be hated and persecuted, the land of Israel will become desolate, but then suddenly the Israelites will return to the desolate land of Israel, they will establish a state there against all odds, and then the whole world will want to go to war against this new Israel state.
During this final war, even the Mt. of Olives is predicted to split in half from east to west (and there is in fact a fault line going across the mountain east to west). But God will save these Israelites and destroy their enemies and bring the messianic era.
Now who has fulfilled these prophecies? It was the Jews and only the Jews who were exiled across the globe, persecuted wherever they went, and returned to the land in this miraculous manner. The modern day state of Israel is one of the greatest fulfilled prophecies in modern history.
Jews fulfilled this. The Bible makes it clear that the Jews are the same Israelites from the Bible. God promised they will always be His people no matter what. Read Ezekiel 38, 39, and Zachariah 14. And Zachariah predicts a 3rd temple will be built and all nations will sacrifice to God there.
"Those who bless the Israelites will be blessed, those who curse the Israelites will be cursed." (Numbers 24:9)
The Holy Land is the size of New Jersey. It has 10 million people and could easily hold 10 million more.
When Jews began moving there in large numbers in the late 1800's there were only 275,000 people in the land. There was plenty of room for everyone.
Jews moved there legally, bought land legally.
The Arabs didn't like the Jews there so they committed multiple attacks on Jewish communities, including in 1929 when they destroyed the Jewish community of Hebron that had been there for centuries.
Some Jews attacked back, and the Arabs attacked more, back and forth. It was clear that coexistence in one state was not going to work.
Then, in 1948, when a plan was drawn up to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, the Palestinians and five Arab nations rejected the plan and attacked with the intent of killing every Jew in Israel.
That was their stated goal. They tried to Nakba the Jews, and when the Jews miraculously won the war, they Nakbad the Palestinians instead by not allowing them to return to the areas they fled.
Because they had to keep the territory they captured lest the Arabs tried to launch another genocidal war. The Jews were right, and the Arabs tried again in 1967 to genocide everyone in Israel in a war.
It's been almost 80 years since the founding of Israel. Almost no Palestinians who experienced the Nakba are alive. Neither are the Israelis who fought in that war in 1948. We are now dealing with their grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
@BM13Katyusha America could have bombed the electrical grid and bridges. They could have flattened all of Iran if they wanted to. They used kid gloves instead, hoping what they had done was enough and they were wrong.
There was a lot of empty land that the Jews bought in the Holy Land that they hoped would be their state. When the partition plan was suggested in 1947, the Jewish state was to be made up of 600,000 Jews and around 500,000 Arabs, and the Jews agreed to this arrangement. It was the Arabs who rejected this and attacked.
After the Arab attempt at genociding the Jews in 1948, Israel still allowed 150,000 Arabs to remain in Israel and they were granted equal citizenship and rights and voting.
Today the descendants of those 150,000 are 2.1 million Arabs with citizenship in Israel who make up 20% of the country today, with equal rights.
Clearly, the Jews have shown they wanted coexistence. In fact, Arab citizens of Israel have more rights than Arabs anywhere else in the Middle East, and that's a fact.
The Holy Land is the size of New Jersey. It has 10 million people and could easily hold 10 million more.
When Jews began moving there in large numbers in the late 1800's there were only 275,000 people in the land. There was plenty of room for everyone.
Jews moved there legally, bought land legally.
The Arabs didn't like the Jews there so they committed multiple attacks on Jewish communities, including in 1929 when they destroyed the Jewish community of Hebron that had been there for centuries.
Some Jews attacked back, and the Arabs attacked more, back and forth. It was clear that coexistence in one state was not going to work.
Then, in 1948, when a plan was drawn up to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, the Palestinians and five Arab nations rejected the plan and attacked with the intent of killing every Jew in Israel. That was their stated goal.
They tried to Nakba the Jews, and when the Jews miraculously won the war, they Nakbad the Palestinians instead by not allowing them to return to the areas they fled.
Because they had to keep the territory they captured lest the Arabs tried to launch another genocidal war. The Jews were right, and the Arabs tried again in 1967 to genocide everyone in Israel in a war. Learn some history,
The Holy Land is the size of New Jersey. It has 10 million people and could easily hold 10 million more.
When Jews began moving there in large numbers in the late 1800's there were only 275,000 people in the land. There was plenty of room for everyone.
Jews moved there legally, bought land legally.
The Arabs didn't like the Jews there so they committed multiple attacks on Jewish communities, including in 1929 when they destroyed the Jewish community of Hebron that had been there for centuries.
Some Jews attacked back, and the Arabs attacked more, back and forth. It was clear that coexistence in one state was not going to work.
Then, in 1948, when a plan was drawn up to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, the Palestinians and five Arab nations rejected the plan and attacked with the intent of killing every Jew in Israel. That was their stated goal.
They tried to Nakba the Jews, and when the Jews miraculously won the war, they Nakbad the Palestinians instead by not allowing them to return to the areas they fled. Because they had to keep the territory they captured lest the Arabs tried to launch another genocidal war.
The Jews were right, and the Arabs tried again in 1967 to genocide everyone in Israel in a war. Learn some history,
@BM13Katyusha No, America still has 850 military bases in 80 countries and is still the world's only superpower. And Israel is still a free democracy that is trying to defend itself from a billion enemies who will not stop attacking until Israel is destroyed.
@NavierStr@voss749@ashvathaman Just look it up on Grok or ChatGPT. Try to verify anything I'm saying. You may be a hopeless case, but I'm trying to help you because I actually care about people not being lied to.
You've been lied to and brainwashed, which is why I am taking the time to try to help you.
The Holy Land is the size of New Jersey. It has 10 million people and could easily hold 10 million more.
When Jews began moving there in large numbers in the late 1800's there were only 275,000 people in the land. There was plenty of room for everyone.
Jews moved there legally, bought land legally.
The Arabs didn't like the Jews there so they committed multiple attacks on Jewish communities, including in 1929 when they destroyed the Jewish community of Hebron that had been there for centuries.
Some Jews attacked back, and the Arabs attacked more, back and forth. It was clear that coexistence in one state was not going to work.
Then, in 1948, when a plan was drawn up to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, the Palestinians and five Arab nations rejected the plan and attacked with the intent of killing every Jew in Israel. That was their stated goal.
They tried to Nakba the Jews, and when the Jews miraculously won the war, they Nakbad the Palestinians instead by not allowing them to return to the areas they fled. Because they had to keep the territory they captured lest the Arabs tried to launch another genocidal war. The Jews were right, and the Arabs tried again in 1967 to genocide everyone in Israel in a war. Learn some history,
Netanyahu was allowing Qatar to send Hamas money to try to keep them happy, pay salaries and run basic civilian services, and prevent Hamas from attacking. Hamas leaders are billionaires because they've stolen most aid that was supposed to go to the Gazan people. Israel thought there was no way Hamas would attack and risk all that Qatari money, but Israel was wrong.
@NavierStr@ashvathaman It's like you've only read Israeli history starting in the last 5 years. Go back to 1947 and see Israel tried to make peace with the Muslims every step of the way. They always refuse because they want Israel destroyed.
You know nothing about me. And unless you're a jihadi yourself, you're too dumb to realize the Ayatollahs have been way more brutal and killed way more Iranians then the Shah ever did. Also, the Shah wouldn't return, it would be a democratic state. You're either a bot, a jihadi, or just really dumb.
I like how you've redirected this conversation from calling Israel genociders and saying Iran should have a nuke to asking if the US should provide free surgeries. I think everyone should have the freedom to do what they want, but not much in the US is free so not sure why this surgery should be.
@NavierStr@ashvathaman The problem is that the Palesrinians leadership has never wanted peace ever, and in their only free elections, Gazans voted for Hamas who regularly call for the mudernof all Jews on earth, including the antizionist ones.
@NavierStr@ashvathaman PLO was a jihadi terror organization. Also if you tell Hamas that Israel formed them, they would probably shoot you and their supporters vehemently deny it. Arafat killedbl tens of thousands of l civilians dummy
@BredBoy01@JerusalemCats Funny how you look at the brightside of bloodthirsty jihadi maniacs who murder gay people for being gay and killed 30,000 protesters demanding freedom.