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@Ingvaar__ @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash You're missing the point. The reason you had to qualify it with "historically" to begin with is because most societies that practiced child marriage have either died out or reformed, the ones who still do are among the least prosperous globally.

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@Ingvaar__ @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash They did in fact not all survive, which is the point. Evolution does indirectly care about societal prosperity, it makes people less likely to die early.

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@Ingvaar__ @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash The evolutionary component would be that children don't make for good mothers. The normative part is the evidence that it's not conducive to a prosperous society.

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@Ingvaar__ @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash No. It's wrong because humans have strong evolutionary and normative reasons to discourage it. There's a reason disgust is a feeling.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Alright, I'll tap. I can see why they call you the Scourge of the Atheists.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Is there one for delusion?

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Your ability to avoid bringing up anything relevant is truly mind-blowing.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Circular reasoning is far more bearable than what you're doing now, which is reasoning away by yourself into some parallel dimension. Or less than parallel.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash So it's linked historically, not semantically. I still don't see how that would undermine my point whatsoever.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash I mean I'll try to decode what you're trying to say, but jesus.

If you're arguing that the concept of dignity "comes from" religion, it changes nothing. It's still society agreeing upon social norms. Not to mention that dignity is nowadays entirely divorced from faith.

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@roguedrifter84 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Yes, that is exactly the question my previous tweet answered. Good on you for keeping up.

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@Awilen3 @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash I don't know what "cum warriors" are, but I'd love to know why you think I'd file that under "common decency".

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@TomatheHawk @FunkMother @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash ...

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@bcs_enjoyer_ @agustin_atria @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash "Decency" or dignity assigned by society would not be objective, but intersubjective. That does not make it at all meaningless. Also, making that concession is pointless as atheists definitionally believe that God doesn't exist, so Christians can't have objective morality either.

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@KayKyser340 @FunkMother @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Plenty. I don't know why you're pretending like social constructs are meaningless or arbitrary when I'm sure you don't do that with laws, traditions, nations or money.

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@FunkMother @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash I'm not talking about a direct, visual observer, which is why I specified it as society at large. Human society observes that roadkill exists, and that sexual deviants exists, and agree upon rules based on that.

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@F3Smokes @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash - would disagree, whether its humanist, naturalist or virtue ethics.

Also as an aside, I hope you don't interpret my objections as hostile. I appreciate you taking the time to engage and have found the conversation interesting.

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@F3Smokes @ShitpostRock @VinceDefash Or they might think that it does, but they'd be wrong. Describing someone as atheist is not sufficient to understand their moral philosophy, if someone is a strict act-utilitarian they might think necro-beasitality is A-OK but pretty much every other branch of secular ethics -