@DustoMan@usurpthachef Even if that were the case, both of these people have already platformed much smaller and worse characters in the past. There is literally no valid argument for either of them not debating him.
@BitinoAi@usurpthachef Because the person in question has a platform comparably as large already, and if they were correct in their convictions it would be trivially easy to flip that audience through live debate. Not to mention the fact both have platformed smaller and much worse opponents in the past
@isaacrrrr7 Es muy sencillo, Isaac, no somos racistas xenófobos como tú. Somos capaces de comprender que las acciones de una persona, o incluso de un grupo, no son representativas de todos.
Sé que debe ser un concepto muy difícil de entender para ti.
@hutchinson As a quick aside, i think it's really sad how far-left and center-dems agree on 75% of things and yet we're going to spend the next 2 years arguing about the 25% we disagree on, even though that 25% is likely just the wording of how to achieve the 75%.
@BriBeedie@hutchinson But do you not understand that by making that concession you are proving Hutch's point that they're misrepresenting the very own thing they're trying to achieve? It's not the job of the listener to clarify what the speaker means.
@hutchinson The steelman is that the current prison system incentivizes reoffending. The view is that prisons should not be labor camps for rejects, but rather a tool of the government to rehabilitate outliers. If they fulfilled this purpose, they'd become obsolete over time.
@hutchinson Man, if only there was an example of a DSA candidate very succinctly explaining the difference that would really undermine the argument Hasan is trying to make.
Anyways, here's a random video of some random guy i found online.
https://t.co/dPbdLt4knN
@KenMastersUSA@VideoJoeYo That's never been my argument. I clearly stated in my last reply (which im assuming you didnt read) that if he hasnt changed his mind, yeah, fuck him. That's entirely separate from this video doing nothing to clarify this is a half-a-decade old interview.
@KenMastersUSA@VideoJoeYo It matters because the framing of the video already purposely avoids giving that context.
5 years ago ICE wasnt publicly executing american citizens like they have today. [1/4]
@KenMastersUSA@VideoJoeYo Back then trump was seen as historical anomaly that we'd never have to see again, and not as a cancer that would eventually return to not only oppose but actively accelerate climate change. [2/4]
@KenMastersUSA@VideoJoeYo Back then the government hadnt taken active steps to gut Medicaid access to ~15M americans and back then the idea that something as constitutionally explicit as birthright citizenship would be so narrowly debated by the supreme court was unfathomable. [3/4]
@KenMastersUSA@VideoJoeYo Ossoff could still hold the same beliefs today, in which case, yeah fuck him. But to think that the last 5 years havent been historically important is nothing short of blatant ignorance. [4/4]