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my acc to answer to people without them seeing my whole fucking life on twitter 👍

If I replied to you you are probably very retarded or I agree with you.

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@putICEontrial @SMRARC @DestinyUpdates0 sentemces

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@KoruuKun @dogbiteadvocate You are replying to a bot lol

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@SkibBluebruh @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Because it is not engaging with the conversation, which is often done by people who are incapable of following a conversation and argumentation.

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@cats_tv10762 @SkibBluebruh @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 You are not old enough for this conversation and it shows in the way your reply to our concern was screenshots showing other occasions of Ren being entusiastic about other encounters.

This is what I meant with "children"

They are not able to engage with the argument presented

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@Ender24818548 @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 That can explain why Zeal thought she was into sex generally. It still doesn’t show what communicated consent to taking her clothes off and starting sexual acts. Smiling, giggling or initiating a kiss isn’t consent to every escalation. That’s my point.

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@Ender24818548 @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 That happened after the fact I am arguing.

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@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 His defense is that her actions still communicated consent, not whatever you wrote happened. Argue his actual defense.

Ren said he took everything off and initiated sexual acts without asking while she was overwhelmed and nonverbal. He apologized. That’s the part I’m calling SA

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@cats_tv10762 @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 This is not a hypothetical where she secretly disliked it and showed absolutely nothing. *THE NEXT NIGHT* ren told him he took everything off and did stuff without asking while she was overwhelmed and nonverbal. Zeal said sorry and later admitted he agreed the night went too fast

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@Ender24818548 @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @cats_tv10762 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 I've been together with my girlfriend for 3 years, and we still ask each other before, during, and after if a new position, or thing we want to do is okay or not. That is how consent works which Zeal was clearly not so familiar with. Same with Ren btw sending him porn unannounced

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@Ender24818548 @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @cats_tv10762 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Even if I were to concede that, which I do not because we do not know if she was exaggerating, as Zeal acknowledge it. You still have to ask before taking someone's clothes off. I don't understand how hard this is to understand?

Specially since it's their first time?

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Who I believe have a bit of a backbone, only to read their other replies on the thread and realize how mentally challenged they also are.

For them it's either white or black, and if you don't agree you are a Nazi? 😔

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If I respond in agreement with someone that is supporting Ren, understand that I am only agreeing to what I am replying. I will not go throuh your whole fucking tweet history to see if you had a shitty opinion.

Now that that's out of the way, I hate replying to people

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@SkibBluebruh @KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @cats_tv10762 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Thank you very much!

Yes, these are the clearest screenshots that prove that AT THE VERY VERY LEAST a Serious Violation of Consent happened. To me though, it is clear that this part of the encounter was indeed SA.

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@sillydilly19624 Genuinely, none have a case. Unless Ren has been saving screenshots that have not been shared (doubt it)

Neither of them have a case to work with, as it is very difficult to prove defamation, specially when it comes to these types of cases (SA). It is all over now, or almost.

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@Acorn_0424 I am sorry you went through that. Conversations should always remain respectful. Debates get heated when talking about these things, specially on younger more impressionable individuals, which a lot of the times leads people to just throw slurs.

Again, sorry u went through that.

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@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @cats_tv10762 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 And they later talked about it on discord. I can't find the clean ss but I will look for it.

Zeal acknowledges what Ren said and how she felt. That instance is SA, yet many people look over it.

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@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @cats_tv10762 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 The well is too poisoned to have these conversations now, specially since most of the people commenting on these things are kids with no proper education on the matter.

I would say that the most obvious though has to be when Zeal "ripped her clothes up" (Ren's words)

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@UhOh941795 @DumPigeonz @sillydilly19624 Clothes coming off is normal. Clothes coming off without warning/checking, while the person says they were confused/nonverbal/before they could process, is the issue.
If you think she lied, argue that.

Don’t pretend it disproves how consent works.

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@UhOh941795 @DumPigeonz @sillydilly19624 My point remains: if a meaningful escalation happens without consent, that act is non-consensual. Later consent does not retroactively fix it.

Nice try though.

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@UhOh941795 @DumPigeonz @sillydilly19624 “Going with the flow” is fine when there are clear mutual cues. It is not when the claim is “without warning” “before I could process,” or “I went nonverbal”
You’re now arguing she lied and that his response is true. That’s a factual dispute not proof my consent standard is wrong