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How Valve Can Do Trade Protection Properly

As we've seen, the trade protection update has been, and continues to be, abused by panic sellers to reclaim their skins moments before the trade protection ends. This causes issues not only for traders but also for people simply trying to buy skins.

As a buyer, you take on all the risk. The weight of market changes now falls on you for the next eight days: if the market crashes, you're stuck with the item; if the market rises, you should reap the rewards. However, trade protection allows the buyer to take all the risk while the seller can watch the market and pull their items back at any time if prices appreciate - or let the item go if they drop.

In trying to create a pro-consumer system, Valve accidentally created the most anti-consumer update yet. People who have had their purchases reversed are far less likely to try again. Valve is losing buyers' trust more and more every single day.

My Recommended Solutions:

1) Require the person filing a reversal to prove, to some reasonable degree, that they were scammed - whether that’s through DMs, location data showing API hijacking, emails indicating account compromise, or something to prove that the trades weren’t intentional.

2) If the first option is “too much work” for support staff, then make the ban three months - maybe even six. As someone who has taken a one-year ban from Valve, I can confidently say I’d do it again over losing all my skins. This would heavily affect people’s decision to revert.

In my opinion, either of these two solutions would improve the health of the market. Long term, I believe trade reversals will have a worse effect on the state of the market than gold tradeups.

Valve, please fix.

[Steam Inventory Helper @SteamInvHelper]

And what exactly did Valve do wrong here?

A new Reddit drama just dropped — turns out you can now get a trade ban just for using the refund system.

One user shared that on October 26 he used Steam’s new reverse-trade protection to cancel a few trades that became unprofitable after the latest market swings.
Two days later - boom - permanent trade ban. Why? 🤡

Apparently, the people he traded with started mass-reporting him for “scamming” after he reversed the deals, and Valve seems to have flagged it as “abuse of the refund system.”

So now, using a feature designed to protect you can get you banned.

On one hand - fair enough, exploiting reversals for profit is kinda shady.
On the other - it’s literally a safety feature, so punishing people for using it feels… questionable.

So tell me… fair punishment or Valve logic strikes again? 🤷‍♂️

💬 Your opinion, guys?

[ren @renyan]

@Vancho666_CS being able to sell your skin to someone, letting them absorb all the risk of a volatile market and then undoing it, should obviously be worth a ban.

you're using a system designed to stop fraud and scam, to fraud and scam. it was never intended to be a "regret" button

[不要开箱 🇪🇸🇵🇹 @dontopencases]

@YouYouYouPin898 @buff163 @csfloatcom and the rest: I don't care if you lose money. If I buy something, I want the item or the difference. The feature was meant to prevent scams, not to scam. Permanent ban or pay the difference to whoever reverses a trade. I don’t f***ing care.

[LaughingMind Trading @LaughingMindCS]

@Alkem1stCS I've been thinking about making a site where people can add steam profile link that reverted trade(with proofs) and make a database of them. Add API, so trade apps can show you in trade window that this person made reverse in past. What do you think?

[Maayazi BUYING CS2 SKINS @RealMaayazi]

Wow so many people getting saved from getting scammed lately. Thank god trade reversal exists to save these people and definitely not to get abused by them. 🙏🙏🙏

[BLKK - Buying Skins @BlkkCS]

Steam Trade Reversals

We’ve all seen the market move up today and the new Trade Reverse function is already being abused left and right.

In my opinion, the approach markets take in China is far more balanced than what we see in the West. Western markets need new systems and better protection against abuse.

Right now, this feature is mostly being used by smaller traders who dump their items during crashes to minimize losses but once the market recovers, they simply reverse the trade.

They don’t care if they get banned; they’ll just make new accounts under friends or family names.

When you buy those cheap items out of others’ fear, you’re taking on big risk. The market could still drop at any moment, no matter how solid your analysis looks.

You’re taking on their risk and these same people are now reversing and taking advantage of you.

The current system clearly isn’t sustainable. It needs a serious rework and I’m confident China will find a smarter solution first.

This problem won’t disappear on its own.

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