@HKroski@Cendius24@buttjoong Wrong answer. Good and evil still exist because God has laid out what is good and what is evil. Fission Mailed, we'll get them next time.
@HKroski@Cendius24@buttjoong Oh good, you understood the analogy. Let's extrapolate. So if good and evil exist for the island even though no humans (including myself) are on it, then for a world governed by God with no humans, good and evil... you can finish this. I believe in you.
@Ghost6tvk@DepGarden@YkarioTwitch I wouldn't go the CEO route because the CEO relies on other people in the chain and their individual input. It's better to maintain the user-tool analogy because AI isn't a friend who draws for you, it's YOUR tool.
@HKroski@Cendius24@buttjoong Let me put this in a language you can understand.
I own an island and can govern it as I wish
I have declared eating meat on Monday evil.
I have declared doing your homework on Sunday good.
Nobody lives on the island. Does good an evil exist for this island?
@Cendius24@HKroski@buttjoong You've made too many posts here demonstrating you're unable to follow the conversation so I'll be bowing my way out. We can chat again sometime.
@HKroski@buttjoong God punishes however God chooses. I have no need to explain the followers who warp the rules. God will sort that out on His own. The best I can do is try to pull them back.
@Zero_275@Astralaeyna It is a piece of art made of pencil and paper. And it's 3D. So you need to make up your mind. Can pencil and paper be used to make 3D art or not.
@Cendius24@Drghostlyy@buttjoong I'm not the one deciding, they're the one who chose to go against the literal definition of Christian as defined by Christians.
@Cendius24@HKroski@buttjoong The moral system exists beyond humans.
But let's talk about the animals. Do animals possess the capability to understand religion. No. They understand commands, they understand incentives, but they lack free will.
@HKroski@buttjoong What are you talking about. God IS the one maintaining and spreading it across the world. God IS the one who punishes those who warp the rules.
@Cendius24@HKroski@buttjoong The objective morality exists beyond humanity. It is ordained by God. Even if there were no humans, good and evil would still exist.
I’m begging atheists to PLEASE understand the argument here. The question is NOT “Can you be a good person without believing in a religion?”.
The question is “Can you justify objective goodness/evil without God?”