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Promoter of rfc2460 rfc8200

What is required to get ISPs to provide IPv6?
They say "there is no demand".
What if sites show warnings for missing IPv6 support?

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With this in mind https://t.co/q5u6h6DE9T was created.

Working PoC exists, any constructive help, improvements and ideas is appreciated.
GitHub discussions will be the preferred method.

[NiKiZe😷 @nikize0]

What is required to get ISPs to realize they need to provide IPv6?

Many say "there is no demand" and ignore it. What if @DuckDuckGo, @Google, @Meta, @netflix, @firefox, @googlechrome started showing warnings about not having IPv6 support. Similar to how HTTPS got into wide use.

[NiKiZe😷 @nikize0]

Does IPv4 CGNAT potentially make ISPs violate net neutrality by giving sites available over IPv6 an "unfair advantage"?

Is there anything similar, but for service providers which give unfair advantage to any particular ISP? Could that be used to argue IPv6 required?

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How come @MongoDB Atlas has no IPv6 support?

IPv6 is more than old enough to drink, supported by all OSes, and hosting is even moving to IPv6 only, this makes @LearnMongo a non option.

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@Azure Thanks, non answer... Get someone in charge to actually answer the question of when!

The promises whe have heard over the years are great, but once actually trying to use things, it's all falling apart.

Dear @MicrosoftHelps take some responsibility when you make promises!

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How come "almost no" @Azure services has IPv6 enabled?
Some examples: KeyVault, Blobstorage, Servicebus, Redis.

@AzureSupport Why? WHY?

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@Azure Why DM?
When will before mentioned services be available over IPv6 (current internet standard)?

And what is the reason they aren't already?

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@ReliableSite @apnic The absolute majority of ISPs run fully compatible and IPv6 ready devices. They have just not configured them and their network.

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@ReliableSite @apnic It is, all of IPv4 is available in the IPv6 address space.

If you think a bit about how most devices deal with packets, they still need to understand this protocol fully, just consider matching a routing table.

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@WordPress @wp_acf @wordpress has also made it clear that they don't intend to make their backend work with hosting on the current version of the protocol (IPv6) they will stay on legacy IPv4 and have tried to use almost every excuse possible to do so.

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@qwertymodo curl -6 https://t.co/DNbpSQQPGz

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@stubarea51 Fully agree.

[Kevin Myers @stubarea51]

We love to joke about security via obscurity, but it's not completely without merit for #IPv6, I setup a throwaway Win 10 box in Vultr and gave it an IPv6 GUA.

There are no scanning hits on the FW externally for that box (2+ weeks timeframe) which is currently open to the IPv6 Internet for RDP on that host.

I'm not sure how an attacker would ever find it tbh.

Note: Before the infosec types jump in and vehemently suggest this shouldn't be the only layer of security, i'm not suggesting this is a prod setup...only observations from a test environment.

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@ArmSoftwareDev @geerlingguy @github But do they have IPv6?

[Maria Matejka (retired acc, see me at 🐘) @marenamat]

Did I really want to read these university slides today?

It's 30+ years since CIDR and 25+ years since IPv6.

There are ~60 slides about IPv4 and NAT and then 6 slides about IPv6 … why can't they teach IPv6 first? 😭

(cc @noIPv6)

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@paulmccord @NetworkChuck Every major OS has full support, most smaller ones as well, many of "we" are using it all the time, some of us even exclusively.

You might ask your network operator or ISP why for example https://t.co/zkfCziOzCE is broken on their network.

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@unix2mars @NetworkChuck Every major device/OS can do IPv6, even turned on by default, it is "only" network operators that is lagging behind, and then AAAA records instead of A in DNS.

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@NetworkChuck Turn of IPv4, since statistically it has more attacks.

You should just make sure you can use IPv6 for everything as soon as possible.

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There is several actors that needs to step up their game @wordpressdotcom is one of them.

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@getnitropack You have some work to do as well
https://t.co/7sktv1rULc

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@SiteGround The current version of the page is full of incorrect statements.

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Dear @SiteGround , could you please stop telling lies about IPv6? And also make sure that you actually have IPv6 on your services? Thanks!

https://t.co/JCbaXnUhgG

If you do have a section about disadvantages for IPv6, where is the much longer section about IPv4?

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@SiteGround I see no improvement especially about security, which isn't relevant, you should remove every mention of IPsec on this page, as it has nothing to do with a comparison between v4 and v6 https://t.co/u5vrDvlfry