@Macurian1@TrashPandaGirll That's not what happened. I suggested what I thought were the essential characteristics of capitalism. You offered two other characteristics, and I argued they might not be essential. I provided examples that problematized your assertion. No chance of a real response on that?
@Anarchist_Ryte This is not only untrue (many organizations on the left have different outlooks on these questions), but the fact that you're saying this is indicative. Also, it's at the intersection of shitty boomer uncle take and content-free begging for attention.
@Macurian1@TrashPandaGirll Are those things necessary features? And how are they defined? Are limited liability joint stock corporations "private" in a way that, for example, state-owned enterprises aren't? Do you have an objective definition of "voluntary"? Is China not capitalist? Why?
@souljagoyteller I mean, I think we should address leftwing antisemitism specifically to strengthen struggles against Zionism. We should also put into focus the strategic use of antisemitism by Israel, and point out that the left gains far less from antisemitism than Israel does.
@Macurian1@TrashPandaGirll Twitter length answer: The system of production based primarily on waged labour and commodity exchange which emerged alongside the ascendency of the capitalist class between the 17th and 19th centuries.
Thorough answer: Read Capital.
@Macurian1@TrashPandaGirll "The only parts of capitalism that count as capitalism are the ones I find agreeable, and also I am pretending some things which objectively exist don't exist because I do not experience them personally."
Cool story, bro.
@Macurian1@TrashPandaGirll I'm sure glad that capitalism doesn't have bread lines, shortages, a tendency toward crisis, and a small number of politically connected persons enriching themselves.
@maaaaaaaagd Part of the problem in these discussions is the shifting meaning of "party", between partisans of a common interest and formal organizations on the model of contemporary bourgeois political parties. Get ready for more heat than light.
@ValforNevada On one hand, liberal ideology is the water we swim in and people are often unaware of their inclination to follow rules.
On the other hand, I think we may have inhabited different parts of "the left" because there are lots working class leftists breaking a lot of rules.
@alternativegold Did indeed read the thread. One can both confront history, i.e. of Zionism as a specifically Jewish ethno-nationalist settler-colonial ideology, and not equate the two.
@SinboundHaibane I mean, I would disagree with the so-called "Jewish state" in totality. Not least since most of the Jews I have been friends with have actively refused to ever go to the state in question.
@SimplyShae13@Softy_Bea Ooof. I guess being in the most America-like province may ease the culture shock? Seriously though, move *at least* two provinces east asap.
Mais, beinvenue!
@alternativegold What does it mean for something to "seem Jewish" in this context? Are you using "Jewish" as a stand in for "Israeli" or "Zionist"? Because, uh . . . don't?