Meanwhile Sunnis say it was Alawite officers trying to get rid of Sunni pilots. But to the extent of my knowledge, Syrian fighter squadrons were not organized by sect. That would be preposterous.
Honestly I think it was just simple human psychology. They encountered a situation they hadn’t trained for and fell back on their training, which was to scramble the fighters
The final part of my series on how the Israeli air victory over Lebanon in 1982 wasn’t the Syrian aircrews fault. This time from the POV of the Israeli F-15s.
We open up with our BVR missile volley. None of mine track since radar missiles sucked ass in 1982. They fire one of theirs at me and I evade it. By now we’re inside their formation. We switch to our Python 3 heat seekers, which are just terrifying, and that’s it for those guys.
So, why is this so different to the Syrian experience? To understand we have to talk about the difference between western and eastern bloc air combat doctrine. Bear with me.
In the east, they liked relatively simple fighters, without complex avionics and radars. These would be guided to the target by ground controllers using a radar network, supported by surface to air missiles. The pilot doesn’t have to know everything going on around him, and can just focus on his task. This is called ground control intercept, and when this works it’s actually very deadly. North Vietnamese used it with brutal effectiveness.
In the west, they preferred fighters with complex avionics and radars, so the pilot knows everything happening around him and can take individual initiative. Fighters are guided by airborne radars housed in repurposed cargo aircraft called AWACS, which are much more responsive than GCI.
So, what happens to the guys using GCI if it gets blinded? This happens. And that’s exactly what the Israeli Air Force did. They destroyed the Syrian ground based radar network and jammed their comms with an unholy amount of electronic warfare.
This meant those guys were now practically flying blind. Their own onboard radars and radar warning receivers had limited scope because they were supposed to be used for final target acquisition, not situational awareness. Think back to my video from the Syrian POV. I had no idea the F-16s were there till my men started dying.
There was nothing they could do. They were put in a situation where no amount of skill or training could have saved them. You could have put Israelis in those planes and they’d be every bit as dead. Israel won because they identified the weak point in Eastern Bloc air combat doctrine and exploited it.
So, whose fault was it? That lies with the Syrian ground controllers who kept scrambling their planes despite the fact that they were flying blind against an opponent who knew exactly where they were. Just funneling those men to their deaths. I have no idea what on earth they were thinking and none of the Syrians I’ve talked to have been able to explain it. Like many aspects of the Assad regime, it leaves behind empty chairs at empty tables, and closure that will never come.
Because it restored their sense of pride and dignity.
The Six Day War was a massive psychological blow. While they definitely did not militarily win in 1973, and anyone saying they did is coping, they did rack up a couple solid W’s, enough that they felt their honor was satisfied.
This is a very strange mentality for Jews since war is purely utilitarian for us. It’s just a chore like any other. We don’t have a martial culture like Arabs do. We’ve gotten very, very, good at killing people but it’s not a cool fun thing.
Arabs on the other hand have a very martial culture where honor and prestige is social currency, and obtaining it is a valid military objective in its own right. Thus the results of the 73 war, in their culture, are a win.
Why ARE Egyptians so delusional about the 1973 war? like, you can admit you won politically in the long run but you can't just invent ghost divisions and go "nah bro we'd just spawn 880 tanks east of the suez"
I think a lot of what gets described as “hypergamy” is just women wanting men who’ve already demonstrated that they’re safe and can act normal around women.
But, there’s a really easy way you can demonstrate that: Having platonic female friends.
@FergusMason25 Agreed. Their martial culture is based around clan warfare, not modern mechanized combat- that said, I think people might underestimate them. They can be quite dangerous if one fails to take them seriously.
It’s discomforting to think that anyone would see you as a potential threat, because of course you aren’t like that. But one can’t always just assume that.
You have to remember that there’s an element of danger for her in this that doesn’t exist as much for you. You’re twice her upper body strength and faster than her. So she wants some kind of way to know that you’re safe to be around and watching your interactions with other women is the best way to do that.
@InfernoxRatchet@Traumanomics I don’t think his death was heroic or wimpy. He was forced to cross on the surface due to damage to the tunnel network, encountered a mechanized platoon, and was killed. He went down fighting but it was definitely not what he was planning to do that day
To further demonstrate my thesis that Israel’s blowout victory over the Syrian Air Force in 1982 wasn’t necessarily a skill issue on the part of Syrian airmen, I decided to hop in the cockpit of a digital MiG-25 myself- the most advanced plane Syria had at the time- and take on a simulated version of the Israeli Air Force of that year.
My flight of 4 MiGs are going after an Israeli strike package but there’s a lot of F-15s and 16s in our way. We gain the advantage in airspeed and altitude and press our attack.
My MiG has one of the most powerful radars in the world in 1982 and I’m still struggling to burn through their jamming. After numerous failed attempts I switch to auto-acquisition mode, which projects a powerful beam straight ahead. It works, and I’ve got an F-15 locked.
He’s distracted because he’s locked one of my wingmen. I fire both my radar missiles at 8 miles and start to check right and climb to gain separation. My MiG is big and fast but not maneuverable, and I need to keep my distance.
It works. My first missile tracks into him and blows him apart. Of my 4 ship flight only two of us managed to get through their jamming and only my missiles hit.
I keep accelerating to clear the merge but now things start going badly.
There’s a flight of F-16s right below, armed with Python 3s, the most capable, agile, short ranged heat seeking missile in the world. And we’re in big big planes with big, hot engines.
They start shooting and my flight starts dying. We get one of theirs but there’s too many of them. Bits of burnt planes and dead men shower over the Levantine night sky like a meteor cascade, in fireballs that would be visible from Haifa and Damascus.
I spot one of the F-16s and dive on him. I’ve got heat seekers of my own. I take the shot but the seeker fails and the missile goes blazing into the night sky.
By this point I decide we’ve pushed our luck more than far enough. I start extending away from the F-16s and their deadly Python 3s to return to base but it’s too late. One slams into my engines, and that’s the end of that.
I’m pretty good at flight sims. I’ve tried the Syrian campaign a couple times. I’ve never survived.