@NanoSon87@Alvaro_DMaria puede ser, y hoy dia se podria mejorar y facilitar mucho el acceso, las wallets, etc
para que sea mas atractivo a mas gente
pero hay un problema cultural real en que para el gran publico de bitcoin no sea mas que un etf glorificado
@NanoSon87@Alvaro_DMaria bitcoin sin autocustodia no es bitcoin.
puedes decir que por naturaleza humana bitcoin solo le interesaria al 1%. me parece justo
pero dentro de ese 1% la grandisima mayoria tendria que ser autocustodia
@fr333d000m@vikrantnyc if i had to leave every community where there's someone tweeting in bad faith, i wouldnt be involved in crypto
many zec users are good people with real usecases, and also use 🍰. i've talked to them in person
there's a whole world out there, outside of petty drama & tribalism
@fr333d000m@vikrantnyc similarly you can make criticisms about btc and ltc privacy and teams, argue that monero is much better and easier to use, decentralized etc
then just remove everything but monero and expect normal people with a life to figure it all out
its not perfection or nothing
@fr333d000m@vikrantnyc this is a false dichotomy
you can provide good tools to use existing widely used crypto as privately as possible, removing friction to using other better tools and also support other projects
zec users are not to blame for how the project is run
@fr333d000m@vikrantnyc there are genuine users with genuine usecases, and they deserve good options
even if you think ZEC is not as good as for ex. LTC, you'd want a good tool for them to be able to give it a chance
pushing people to isolated monochain apps and/or with worse privacy is net negative
@bajpaiharsh244@vikrantnyc its understandable to expect cake wallet being first to all things in the privacy space (monero on ios in 2018, mweb for litecoin, silent payments, payjoin...)
but sometimes plans are just delayed
https://t.co/FxNLmSNenJ
we need both monero and zcash to be as strong, decentralized, well principled and well run as possible
contrary to what tribalists argue, having only 1 private crypto thriving and the other die is having a single point of failure for freedom
openness, collaboration, criticism
Just for the record - ZODL, a for-profit entity funded by VC firms, secretly coordinated an entire soft and hard fork of a network, and now are using it for marketing purposes tell you NOT to use open source wallets who aren’t VC funded.
The full story:
1. As one of the largest ecosystem participants in Zcash (both as a wallet and a merchant via Cake Pay), we had to find out about the bug from an X post and were never contacted to start patching our nodes or wallets ahead of time.
2. Every question we sent on X and DMs to ZODL folks was ignored until after they had the opportunity to patch in secret before releasing code.
3. The fix was (understandably) obfuscated and commits were held back until the release was out, so we had no way to see what was necessary to resolve client-side until long after ZODL and who knows who else.
4. We were only able to get a response and talk to those in the know on the bug/fix as of 3h ago, despite repeated efforts on all platforms for two days, but they have been helpful since then.
I understand the need for doing things quietly when critical bugs are found in consensus code, but refusing to notify or communicate at all with your FOSS ecosystem partner (likely because they feel threatened by our competition) is absolutely insane and an abuse of the insider access that ZODL has, EVEN MORE SO now that they’re a for-profit company that has to serve its VC interests.
This is not the way decentralized networks should be run, is not the way FOSS communities should coordinate responses to responsibly disclosed bugs, and is yet another frustrating saga in Zcash having good tech but an immensely frustrating social layer.