Iβm not afraid of being called a βkafir.β
If standing with the oppressed makes me a disbeliever in your eyes, so be it. Allah is the One who judges hearts, not people on the internet.
The LGBTQ+ community is targeted, mocked, and marginalized in many parts of the world. I believe in standing with the oppressed, not adding to their pain.
π Allah says:
βAnd what is [the matter] with you that you do not fight for the cause of Allah and for the oppressed among men, women, and children...β
β Surah An-Nisa (4:75)
I will never be ashamed to speak up against hate, because being human, merciful, and just is part of being Muslim. If you disagree, do it with sincerity, not with slurs.
You ask about how I know about Qirat. That's stupid, how do I know about the history of Coffee when Allah didn't mention coffee. QIRAT are just natural linguistic variation, they aren't Allah's revelation. I don't accept them as some form of revelation or that it is important to our religion in any way. And no, the prophet didn't teach you about Qirat. Some guy hundreds of years after told you he said it. That's called hearsay.
If you don't know that the Quran tells you what is required in prayer, you don't read the Quran. It tells you what to do, stand, kneel, prostrate, what times to pray, how to do wudu, what to recite etc.
why tf do we need to know about the companions? Is our religion monotheism are paganism? Did Abraham know the companions of Muhammad? Our creed is the creed of Abraham. Only Allah can legislate. Islam isn't about knowing what companions allegedly did or didn't do. They didn't even agree, and they killed each other. Islam is about submitting to Allah alone in worship and following his rules and guidelines to be a better human. You sound like the Jews and Christians making Allah religion about companions.
Hadith only add extra legislation that were not given by Allah.
Only Allah can legislate.
Knowing the companions isn't going to get you into heaven. Khalid ibn Abdul Waleed was a rapist and killed other Muslims. Wow so noble.
And no I didn't defend someone putting pigs blood on the Quran, I hate it and think it's disrespectful and wrong. My point still stands.
Follow up: Did Allah lie in the Quran when Allah said it's complete, the best explanation, and the guidance?
Why do we need an inferior explanation to explain Allah perfect explanation?
If you need other volumes, it's not complete - therefore You believe Allah lied.
You are mushrik.
@Rothmus@elonmusk because despite the fact we may be the same, we arent treated the same.
Crime is illegal.
"Then why do we need a justice system"
dumb af
@EndoRole3 @MedianTiks read the other reply first. Just because these natural linguistic variations exist or that they are found in hadith doesnt make hadith important to our religion or our guidance. The Quran, alone, as it claims itself is the only source of complete guidance that we need.
The source of Qirat is a cause from the language not authenticated or authorized by Allah.
The differences in pronunciation are negligible and have the same overall meaning.
IN FACT no qirat go back to "sound" chains, all the narrations are broken or have hiccups according to your own hadith "science"
The only reason warsh became popular was because of Maliki fiqh was followed in North Africa and the ruler of the time implemented his students style of recitation. Sectarian Mushriks known as Sunnis cant even agree whether there were 7 or 10, some even say 14 ,of these "divinely sanctioned" qirat. Just like Allah says you only follow conjecture.
What you are essentially arguing is how something is read in different regions. If my name is John, which is more correct, Yahya, Yohan, John, Jack, Jean, Giovanni, Johann, Jan, Ivan? Do we need hadith or some other source to know this? Thats silly. Different people from different communities say and recite things differently. Thats not corruption, thats natural linguistic variation. Thats all that these "Qirat" are.
@EndoRole3 @MedianTiks You obviously didnt read what I said. Read above and try again. Hadith are not needed in any way. the Quran is clear, perfect, preserved and complete. It IS the explination. Saying you need man authored hadith to understand is saying Allah lied.
The Quran's own claim is that it is a protected book from Allah.
βThe Quran came to us as a single, internally consistent, and complete revelation. Its preservation is a miracle promised by Allah Himself (15:9), not dependent on the flawed memory of men. The text you hold today is the same as it was from the very beginning.
βThe Hadith, on the other hand, consists of reports that were not written down until centuries later. The very fact that later scholars had to develop an entire field of "Hadith criticism" to weed out the over 90% of fabricated reports is a clear sign that they were never meant to be on the same level as the Quran.
βThe Quran is a singular, divinely protected text. The Hadith is a human-compiled collection of reports, with a documented history of fabrication. There is no logical equivalence here; the two are fundamentally different in their origin and authenticity. Don't try to bring your logical fallacy of false equivalence and compare the authorship of Allah with the authorship of man.
@EndoRole3 @MedianTiks Look at you shifting to many differe things. War against Allah is different than being a homosexual dummy. Yes if Muslims oppress someone I will stand up against it.
Both "Owner" and "King" are fitting attributes for God on the Day of Judgment.
The existence of two recitations like Maliki and Maaliki doesn't prove the need for Hadith scholars; it proves the incredible preservation of the Quran itself. The two readings are not external to the Quran. They both communicate the exact same meaning of God's absolute authority on the Day of Judgment. The fact that the Quran can convey a single, clear message through different, recitations is a sign of its miraculous nature, not a flaw that needs to be "fixed" by an external source or a specific group of scholars.
what is your point? Where does this say "Oppress homosexuals" the story of Lot is about people who were more than just homosexual. they raped (look at attitude towards Lots guests) they did highway robbery and all sorts of other tyranny and mischief. These verses dont give you the right to oppress LGBTQ. Unless you are saying you are Allah.
@EndoRole3 @MedianTiks just because something is a sin doesnt give anyone the right to opress that person. everyone sins, shall everyone now be opressed amd mistreated? dont be daft.
That doesn't defeat the actual point. It's just a big fallacious argument. Is the statement true or not. Does federal minimum wage need to be increased or not. Democrats have consistently attempted to increase federal minimum wage. Is been consistently blocked by Republicans in Congress. It sounds too me like you don't know how the government works. Raise the wage act β s 1332hr, s 2488, hr603, s.53, hr583, β 2007 bush pushed for fair minimum wage act, but passed by a Democrat run Congress. So what are you talking about.