@ShabbosK There were Jewish people on the left who voted for these folks. I sincerely doubt crown heights is going to be evacuated because of this unfortunately.
Piers, the IDF is operating in accordance with international law against Hezbollah, a terrorist organization that is hell-bent on killing Israelis.
You would do the same if it were your family in danger.
Pay no attention to Ben Gvir.
He’s a clown who represents neither Israel’s values nor its actions. He didn’t serve a single day as a soldier, so he’s just spewing nonsense.
We’re defending ourselves in a war we didn’t start and don’t want.
And I will ensure that we continue to defend ourselves.
@TheModerateCase What exactly has Lebanon done to curtail Hezbolla? Do you know that the military faction in Lebanon are Shia not Christian, and are totally ok with Hezby being in control. Ben Gvir is dumb but your point shows you have no clue what’s going on there.
For the record, it is a blatant lie to say Israeli cabinet members attacked President Trump.
Israeli officials expressed bewilderment and alarm over the MOU, but they never attacked Donald Trump.
Now that lie has been spread like wildfire.
It’s important that we stay factual and show receipts when we make outlandish claims.
The place Israel occupies in these people's imagination is ridiculous. Israel as the linchpin of colonialism, capitalism, white supremacy, ecological devastation - whatever bugs you most, Israel does it worst. Get rid of Israel, save the entire world.
It is much bigger than Rooney. Over the last few years, artists, activists, and academics have repeatedly advanced versions of the same claim: Israel as humanity’s arch-nemesis, the disappearance would somehow solve everything.
Example: Jason Hickel, visiting professor at the London School of Economics, claimed that “A liberated Palestine means a liberated Middle East. A liberated Middle East means capitalism in the core really faces a crisis.” Because why not.
Israel has become a western totem, personifying the cumulative sins of the West’s entire history. In an incredible historical irony, the Jews are now not an oriental, semitic pariah nation nor a degenerate sub-human race, but the purest representatives of the West and the most atrocious white supremacists.
As the West’s original essence Israel naturally carries the West’s original sins: colonialism, imperialism, capitalism, etc. Because the Jews are now considered the very essence of the West, Israel's sins are understood as the carrying the collective blame of all westerners. Making Israel pay is thus not only a step on the long arch towards justice, but serves as a purgative practice for all westerners.
As the effigy of the West, burning Israel will cleanse the West from its past transgressions. The wish to eradicate Israel is therapeutic, salvific: the sins of all western forefathers, those imperialist, colonialist, slave-holding Europeans, will finally be atoned. Capitalism will fall, the environment will be saved. Redemption is nigh, we just have to eradicate that wart of a nation.
As the eternal alter-ego of the West, Jews will always function as its scapegoats. When the West loved itself, we were the alien element supposedly defiling it. Now that the West despises itself, we have become its distilled essence: the figure through whose destruction it fantasizes about purification.
@bonchieredstate Qatar, qatarlson, Barrack are the likely involved. He’s said some things that show he has zero understanding of what’s actually going on in Lebanon.
@Israel2252 Not a good take at the moment. Let’s get through elections and regroup and we can visit this discussion after our parliament gets its act together.
@marklevinshow Mark, this is not an accurate talking point. While we can bomb them into oblivion an aerial campaign will not bring regime change. We saw this in both campaigns.
@JewishWarrior13 What did we expect would happen, when there was no stomach to finish the job to begin with. He wants a deal, and it appears at any cost.
I met Ben once. We were seated at the same dinner table.
At first, we did not recognise each other. Neither of us had any idea we would end up at the same table.
I asked him where I knew him from. He replied, “Ben, from Ben & Jerry’s.”
I smiled and said, “Nice to meet you. I’m Alex, Deputy Consul General of Israel to the Southeastern United States.”
This was at the height of the Ben & Jerry’s Israel controversy. I decided not to raise politics, out of respect for our gracious host. But I was also biding my time, because I suspected he would not be able to resist bringing it up.
About an hour into dinner, he came over to talk.
I saw it as an opportunity to understand where he was coming from, to explain a few things, and to keep the conversation as civil as possible. And to be fair, it was civil. He was pleasant, curious, and polite.
But quite quickly, I also realised he was completely ignorant about Israel.
He had never visited the country or the region. He had basic facts wrong, not only about the narrative, but about the foundations of the conflict itself: the makeup of the countries involved, the history, and the deeply rooted reasons each side sees the conflict the way it does.
For him, it was simple: there are people who appear oppressed, so someone must be the oppressor.
I do not blame Ben personally. He is a businessman who sells ice cream. Why should he be expected to understand Israel, the Middle East, or geopolitics?
The real problem is with those who treat him as an authority.
The media gives him a pedestal to speak about issues he clearly does not understand. And that is the absurdity of it all: taking an ice cream salesman and presenting him as a voice of moral clarity on one of the most complex conflicts in the world.
@TheModerateCase Doesn’t appear to be much stomach from Lebanese Gov and their army to remove Hezbollah. Sure the onus should be on them, but in reality we should be prepared for the eventuality that it won’t happen.
@JewishWarrior13 What did we expect would happen? Trumps comments the last few days show a) he doesn’t understand Lebanon/Hezb dynamic or b) he understands but is more adamant about an Iran deal. Either way not good for us.
Turns out that Jimmy, Dave, Igor, Ryan, and an assortment of Jew hating life-losers, disgruntled libs, sexual deviants, leg-humpers, drunks and failed comedians really aren’t a great coalition for winning a conservative primary election IRL. Shocker.
We didn’t ask for this ideological war, they did. And we finished it. Matter of fact, we didn’t even invite them to this party.
They invited themselves. And then they shit in the punch bowl and now they’re playing dumb as to why we threw their asses out.
Take your 1940s era agitprop bullshit and shove it up your ass. Or go back where you came from with your “river to the sea” terrorist friends. Those radical libs will welcome you back with open arms. Agitprop is their thing. It’s their ONLY thing.
Thanks. Have a great rest of your day! And a big thanks to the real conservatives who saw through this bullshit.
-Dan
🚫 CLAIM: Iranian state media claims that Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps hit a U.S. warship with two missiles.
✅ TRUTH: No U.S. Navy ships have been struck. U.S. forces are supporting Project Freedom and enforcing the naval blockade on Iranian ports.