@kevykevkevkev So when using the same logic
Classical judaism ≠ modern judaism
Classical christianity ≠ modern christianity
But the guy in the video was clearly avoiding sectarianism snd referring to the basis of all 3 religions.
@kevykevkevkev If you ask jews they will say they are fully following the torah and are classical jews. My point is that this is inconsistent reasoning when not applied to christianity too. Early Christians did not have a canon and many christians believed things we would today call heretical
@nik_fydorov@_dave_mccoy You’re comparing the basis of christianity to jewish sects and that’s an unprovoked double standard. Judaism started with the torah, just as Christianity started with christ. But rabbinical judaism is late, as is modern (orthodox and catholic) christianity.
@nik_fydorov@_dave_mccoy He never mentioned rabbinical judaism, he just said judaism. If you want to get sectarian, the catholic and orthodox churches post-date rabbinical Judaism by around 3 centuries.
@JamesMatt2288@DanielR31912063@NameNam32547899@SDebeluhar Why is it supposed to be bad to be mixed? If a person were white then their ancestry could be that of the Romans and if they were black it could be that of the Egyptians or aksumites, if they’re mixed, it’s both. So being mixed makes you 2x better not a fraction as great.
@SomekindaKaiser@irfxniskndr@UmmahGrid Allah honored the children of Ibrahim by way of jesus and other prophets but israel shattered their covenant when they attacked jesus. He was their final prophet. Allah sent his final messenger through ismail in fulfillment if his acceptance of ibrahims prayer for ismail
@LittleMike120@AxadJimco@Greco_66 America was founded on freedom that includes freedom of religion. The founding fathers rejected a state religion and many early Americans fled Europe for religious freedom. Today America is the most successful country established by euros and euros chase the American dream.
@KeremAk44970808@Ogznhnn If the Turks had not adopted islam then they would’ve remained backwater scrubs under the feet of the muslims. The muslims under the Rashidun, Umayyad and abbasid caliphates had already spread far beyond Arabia.
@SomekindaKaiser@UmmahGrid Why would i pick between two idiocies? Allah says the bible has been corrupted and to hold fast to only what Allah has revealed within it.
@LordManlet@SomekindaKaiser@UmmahGrid I researched some of this. Not all of it. You’re the first i’ve debated to mention Ignatius so i don’t know much about him. My point still stands and it’s stronger against Ignatius because he has absolutely 0 chains to john the disciple.
@LordManlet@SomekindaKaiser@UmmahGrid “because they align with his goal of establishing the origins of the New Testament canon.”
Not because they might actually be true.
@LordManlet@SomekindaKaiser@UmmahGrid And what you said is super wrong. We have far more traditional material and authentic material for the prophet muhammad than jesus we have sahifas like that of ibn munabbih which were actually dictated by companion’s and dated within a century of the noble messengers death
@LordManlet@SomekindaKaiser@UmmahGrid Brosko, papias thought Judas bloated to the size of a house and was killed by a wagon. He’s the most preposterous church father here and his narrations are rejected in your own church this alone is evidence that there were bizarre stories circulating that early.