Kevin Killough

Energy reporter for @JustTheNews. I've made a career out of talking to the people that the legacy media won't. Opinions entirely my own.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

Oh, so you support stopping EVs from being allowed to charge using emissions-prouding energy sources, right? Would you be in favor of that restriction? Of course not. That only applies to data centers. And no one is talking about taxes. You're trying to move the goal posts. However, in the U.S. we used to have tax rebates for new EV purchases. Surely you'd agree those were bad, right? They let major automakers rake in lots of money. Or do you think subsidies for EVs are great. You do, don't you?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

This is some serious cope here. Climate activists cheered on EVs. They didn't try to stop them until this fantasy grid came into being. Why didn't they protest EVs until we had the green energy to support them like they do with data centers? Explain. Why was it okay for EVs to drive up electricity demand but not data centers?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@frakblurg @karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion And you keep trying to address that intellectual inconsistency by explains why you think EVs are so absolutely amazing. If you loved data centers, you'd support their electricity use, even if it wasn't powered by emissions-free sources.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@frakblurg @karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion Yes, you've stated your double standard. Both EVs and data centers are powered by fossil fuels. However, you only object to data centers and not EVs, because you love EVs. You can keep stating this, but it doesn't change the fact you have a glaring intellectual inconsistency.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

Just out of curiosity, would you be comfortable with me scrutinizing what you use electricity for and deciding if it's a good use of that energy? If not, then you might understand why some would object to your position: "I hate data centers so I don't want to allow people to use electricity for them." I like data centers, think they have immense potential for all kinds of applications. At the same time, I don't object to ***ANY*** technologies based on how much electricity they use, including EVs.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@karpkomet @frakblurg @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion Yes, my point hasn't changed, unlike your principles which vary according to what technology we're talking about.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@karpkomet @frakblurg @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion Oh, so you would argue that people who drive EVs where there isn't emissions-free power are just like people who build data centers? Right? Of course not. You love EVs no matter where they're driven and no matter what source of electricity is used to charge them.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

No, you just have to demonstrate intellectual consistency. It's a simple formula. If driving up electricity demand and the emissions associated with such an increase is a problem, it should be a problem for EVs and data centers. However, as you keep arguing, it ONLY matters for the technologies you don't worship.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@frakblurg @karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion If EVs were stuffed with processors, you wouldn't care. You don't care about processors. You hate data centers. Period.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

Yes, data centers are not part of climate activists' approved technologies, which is a list based on various technological phobias and ideological virtues. They will raise issues about their demonized technologies, but if one of their worshiped technologies causes the same issue, they don't care. This proves my point.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@frakblurg @karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion Yes, as you state, climate activists do not actually care about the electricity demands of data centers. If a technology they worship, like EVs, demand large amounts of electricity, they don't care at all, even if that electricity drives up emissions.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion It says that you proved my point. Climate activists do not care about the electricity demands of data centers. They will dismiss those concerns without hesitation if it's a technology they worship, like EVs.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

So, let's recap. EVs are charged with fossil fuel energy, but they're awesome and one day will be charged with glorious, life-saving renewables...one day. But not today. But data centers, which use the exact same fossil-fuel powered electric grid as EVs, are bad because that electricity isn't emissions free. So, when emissions power EVs, they're totally fine. But when they power data centers, that's bad. Make it make sense.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@moonyman_1 @frakblurg @karpkomet @JamesTStallion And we have another climate activist who believes electric cars are somehow magically charged on emissions-free electricity. And you call me a yokel?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@frakblurg @karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion You believe that all those EVs on the road today are charged entirely by emissions-free electricity? Seriously? Well, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but...

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion You have absolutely no idea how EVs are made, do you?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

Yes, this proves my point. If it's a technology you like, then you're fine with electricity demands. If it's a technology you hate, then electricity demands are an issue. In other words, you're not being sincere when you raise issue about data centers' electricity demands. You just hate data centers -- just like you just hate fossil fuels -- and you want them gone. That's the point.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

Your comment was made possible by a data center. But nevermind that. This proves my point. Climate activists don't care about the electricity demands of data centers. They will ignore that issue so long as it's a technology they like. Kind of like they'll ignore the potential impacts of offshore wind on marine wildlife, whereas they'll go into hysterics over the same potential with oil and gas drilling. They don't really care about marine wildlife. They just hate oil and gas. And that's why they don't care if offshore wind projects harm marine wildlife. Their concerns are never sincere.

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

It's funny the outrage from climate activists about the power demands placed on the grid by data centers. Why wasn't there any such concern for the mandated transition to electric cars and trucks?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@karpkomet @moonyman_1 @JamesTStallion Yes, thank you for confirming my point. The issue for climate activists has *nothing* to do with electricity demand. The issue is they love EVs and hate data centers. Why not just say, "We need to stop data centers because we hate them," rather than raise issues about energy use?

[Kevin Killough @kevindkillough]

@KevinSLeahy @JamesTStallion This has nothing to do with the double standard I was criticizing. So, I'm still not sure what point you're trying to defend. Who are you arguing with?