@BeefTaquitos nga ik whats going on in that panel garou copied saitama's serious punch technique and they both hit eachother with the same amount of force meaning garou and saitama in this specific panel is equal, my point is that if your equal to or stronger then saitama u can damage him..
@DickyMikkie@BhdAnkur exactly, garou copied saitama's strength so he could be equal to his level of strength meaning saitama can literally be damaged if it's someone equal to OR stronger then him and goku is not getting hurt by the ice its the way broly is slamming him onto the ice...
@MarvooTama look at yall trynna give saitama all the upscales in the world just so he'd win, he doesn't have ki...let alone godly or divine ki so he'd never be able to copy ultra instinct realistically π