@ADonutMan@_gurusandhu_ That moment when you realize that the audio lures and the flirt acts are the same concept of "make the body act on its own to inhibit its possessor from attacking you"
@_gurusandhu_ This is the biggest reason why I can't accept the whole "they're controlling the shadow mantle avatar with a controller backstage" idea because if they're playing the game normally why can they also kill Kris for real through it
@_gurusandhu_ I figure it's just that the religion is based around a prophecy rather than any set of morals. So it's not that he's actively trying to get people to sin, it's just not really his jurisdiction
@Dappy_Doll@MondayCirrus Is it really that surprising? I thought it was pretty clear that they didn't really view him as a person for a majority of the series
@Starhermits A lot of this debate is probably because a lot of people think that Eram and Gaster are enemies when it's more likely that they're on the same side to some degree
@Seautist578 Swatch calls the Neo body the "manifestation of a Lightner's dream", and Seam both directly states that the crystal was from the machine and that it must have been important to someone
They thought the retcon was shadow crystals forming from dreams rather than being handed out