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@tallyman2023 Claiming to own a real estate portfolio even Zendaya and Tom Holland’s combined $65M can’t afford. You gotta be dumb af to believe his shi as a woman

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@hannahwesleyy To put things in perspective, this dude is claiming to own a real estate portfolio that even Zendaya wouldn’t be able to afford. Her net worth is 40mil. These women fall for anything

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@hannahwesleyy Owning a real estate portfolio that even celebs can’t afford🤣 and these women fall for it?

[The Drunk Republican @DrunkRepub]

Poor Casey Anthony. She killed her daughter in the wrong era. Had she waited 15 years she’d be a hero.

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@ThatJurorLawyer Are you that intellectually impaired that you can’t understand what was actually said, or are you deliberately twisting her words to suit your agenda? Given that you’re a lawyer, I’m inclined to assume it’s the latter.

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@TrueCrimeBelieb 9 women and 3 men on the jury. That will tell you enough…

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@JamesAGagliano Excellent take. Although i do think hung jury will be avoided since reddington added the manslaughter option.

[Allie Beth Stuckey @conservmillen]

I was wrong about Lindsay Clancy. Here’s why I changed my mind.

She was never diagnosed with postpartum depression or psychosis. She was not on 13 medications at once. She was not “hearing voices.” She was not abandoned by her family.

She was diagnosed with a mood disorder - never psychosis - and went to a variety of doctors who all prescribed different medications, which she took unreliably and not simultaneously.

She only heard a voice one time - and that was right before she killed her kids. Extremely atypical for psychosis.

She carefully planned her children’s murders down to the minute. She researched the distance of a restaurant she’d ask Patrick to go to. Added on a last-minute errand before he left. Calmly answered his phone call in the middle of her crime. Brought her children down to the basement one by one, overpowering their resistance and killing them slowly.

It does seem like she had support from her family. She may have still been overwhelmed, but it’s not true that all of her cries for help went unanswered.

I originally placed too much blame on the many SSRIs she was prescribed. For years on my show, I’ve talked to health professionals who have been warning about the violence-inducing effects of these drugs, and I thought Lindsay’s case may be an example of that reality.

Is it still possible these SSRIs had a negative effect? Absolutely. But the case that these drove her into a psychotic episode is weak.

This evidence continues to reveal, in my opinion, that Lindsay Clancy methodically murdered her children and she was fully aware of what she was doing.

[Jesús Enrique Rosas - The Body Language Guy @Knesix]

The Lindsay Clancy case is WORSE than we thought

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@LastSummit @paleochristcon @0wlishness I get this case is sensitive. My sister has a history of psychosis as well as bipolar. I saw her go through postpartum when she had her first child. We even discussed this case together on both sides. It still seems highly unlikely she actually had PP psychosis.

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@LastSummit @paleochristcon @0wlishness Conveniently only had psychosis for 18 mns that it took to kill her kids? Never reported signs of psychosis before or after, and showed significant planning that day. I’ve had 2 siblings go through multiple psychosis, this isn’t my first rodeo. LC isn’t one of them.

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@gianniconfalone @0wlishness @paleochristcon I agree hormones don’t justify both of those crimes, but it’s a dumb comparison since the case isn’t just about hormones but whether or not she was psychotic

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@JayKay68447318 @ThatJurorLawyer Are you serious? This is a criminal case involving 3 dead children. All evidences are used despite the fact she confessed, and the cruelty of the facts. You lot are insane and a danger to society as a whole.

[jonathanhatami @jonathanhatami]

For all the Internet criminal law experts out there:

- In murder criminal cases, where the victim is a CHILD, injuries to the child, photos of injuries, photos of any weapons used, the autopsy report, autopsy photos, medical records, hospital photos, testimony of injuries, crime scene photos, graphic cell phone and house videos are all RELEVANT even if the murderer admits the murder. The People always have the burden. These things are uncomfortable to listen to, watch, investigate, and try as a juror, prosecutor, police officer, detective, family member, judge, court reporter, media, court staff, and public. But, what happened and how it happened is required and should be no matter if the victim is an adult or a child. Children have the same rights under the Constitution that adults have. The truth is the truth no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel.

-In murder criminal cases, where the victim is a child, there is no law, jury instruction or legal requirement that we must show evidence that the murderer was mean to the child in the past, was a mean or abusive person in the past, hurt the child in the past, is a violent person in general, abused the child in the past, abused others in the past, or anything else you think you need to make sense of the killing. In CA, we are allowed to use past conduct to show propensity in child abuse cases, after a motion if the judge allows it. But it’s not a legal requirement in order to prove guilt. So, are you internet people saying if you kill an adult, no one cares about past conduct, but once you kill a child, you are only responsible for the murder if we can make sense of it and prove some past bad conduct against that child? Again, the laws apply equally to all victims. Don’t put additional requirements on holding someone responsible just because the victim is a child. Everyone wants to know motive, the why, or make sense of it. But that’s not required to prove guilt even in child murders. Don’t be unfair to the child.

-In CA, we have a guilt phase and an NGI phase. Same jury but in essence two trials. The first is all the tough-to-hear evidence. There we obviously have the burden. The second is more of a battle of the doctors/experts. In CA, the defense has the burden regarding proving their client was “criminally insane” at the time of the crimes. In the CW, it looks like they do all of it in one trial and the People or CW have all the burdens including the issue of insanity. So, talking about the victims, focusing on the victims, and making the trial about the victims and what the defendant did to the victims is not “sick.” Thats what a prosecutor should be doing. Thats the facts. A child was murdered. It’s a child murder case. If it’s a child victim, and that makes you feel uncomfortable, we don’t have different Constitutions for adults and children. That would be unfair.

The death of children in criminal jury trials should NEVER be secondary to your cause (no matter how important) or to the defendant. I don’t fault the defense attorney for doing this - that’s his/her job. But you internet experts, this isn’t about YOU. It’s about the children.

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@saninotagain 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@0wlishness @paleochristcon Yh, it’s a dumb comparison. He’d be better off pointing out the weakness in her psychosis claim using the experts that testified. That’s what the entire case rests on, and proves she was criminally responsible. PP psychosis is real, and serious, but highly unlikely LC had it.

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@paleochristcon @0wlishness Multiple experts testified they don’t believe she had PP psychosis.They said psychotic ppl experiencing command hallucinations, try ignoring it and experience it multiple times. She had it once and obeyed immediately. Psychosis that only lasted the 18mns it took to kill her kids

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@0wlishness @paleochristcon Multiple experts testified they don’t believe she had PP psychosis.They said psychotic ppl experiencing command hallucinations, try ignoring it and experience it multiple times. She had it once and obeyed immediately. Psychosis that only lasted the 18mns it took to kill her kids

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@paleochristcon It’s not about PP depression, but about whether she had PP psychosis during the act. It’s a bad comparison. Instead attack her claim on psychosis, that conveniently only lasted for the 18 mns it took to kill her children.