@layan9120@ThatJurorLawyer Calling that critique “absurd” is absurd. Nobody says the CW shouldn't present the facts. The issue is the sheer amount of cumulative, graphic evidence with little added probative value. At some point, it's about inflaming the jury, not proving criminal responsibility.
@Real___iTamara “Children vs. women’s mental health” ... Because apparently nuance and dialectical thinking have left the chat. You can care about the children and still recognize that severe mental illness matters.
@KatieMiller That's an astonishingly simplistic take on postpartum psychosis. It's not “hormones made her kill her children.” It's a SEVERE psychiatric illness that can involve delusions, hallucinations and a profoundly altered perception of reality.
@realumutturan@hell_line0 You're confusing the 12-week postpartum care period with the window for postpartum mental illness. ACOG explicitly recognizes mental-health conditions that first occur in the first year after birth. PPD can occur up to a year postpartum. The distinction matters quite a lot here.
Have you watched Lindsay Clancy’s arraignment from February 7, 2023? This was 14 days after the crime. Lindsay appeared via Zoom flat on her back from the hospital.
It’s in 2 parts so I could upload it.
PART 1:
Pay attention at 12:11 to the ADA telling the court that Lindsay told her husband in December 20, 2022, that she had suicidal thoughts and that she also had thoughts of harming the kids.
Pay attention at 12:47 where the DA talks about Lindsay’s detailed logs about the medications she took, her difficulties with medications, how she told her doctor who had her stop the medication, or wean off it, and start another medication.
She goes on to say that her husband said Lindsay ALWAYS took the medications as prescribed.
Pay attention at 16:25 where the ADA describes that ligature strangulation occurs within 10 seconds up to 1 minute.
PART 2:
Pay attention to defense attorney Reddington at 10:00 discussing a letter from Lindsay’s surgeon submitted to the court about her injuries. Several severe spinal fractures, including spinal transection, rib fractures in the chest, both sides cervical spine fractures. The ADA was arguing that she could move her legs and could be placed in prison.
Then pay attention at 13:00. Reddington describes coming across a drawer in the house with a wish vase. His wife had to tell him what it was. Lindsay wrote notes of things she wished for. She hoped to get pregnant again. She wished for success for each of her children.
Pay attention at 15:00 when the ADA claims they received information that Lindsay could move her legs. She then argues that Lindsay is a flight risk, even though paralyzed.
Pay attention at 16:00 where Reddington describes the hospital the ADA wants to send Lindsay to (Shattuck) as like something in Iran.
@donnaka007@GogIvanka Luckily, the legal system is a couple of centuries ahead of you. “Murder is murder” is a nice bumper-sticker slogan, but American law has recognized insanity defenses since the 19th century.
@DogGirlLL19@RubyD_JinaG The children being victims doesn't make prosecutors above criticism. Their decisions are fair game: bringing this case in the first place, cherry-picking evidence, and turning the trial into an emotional spectacle. You can grieve for the children and still criticize the CW.
@SouthernKeeks The “women defend her because they share similar biology” argument is absurd. Empathy for a severely mentally ill person isn't excusing what happened or minimizing the children's deaths. It's about understanding that mental illness and criminal responsibility aren't black & white
@cathyrusson Exactly. The timing was what stood out to me. The "we never argued it wasn't a serious suicide attempt" position only appeared after the defense pushed to bring in experts to counter that narrative and the judge seemed open to it. It felt like a clear pivot.
@_MadamSecretary So the moment it looks like the judge will let Reddington bring in an expert to counter the "fake suicide" narrative, the CW suddenly claims that was never their argument. Got it.
@itskikidanger But haven't you heard? According to Jennifer Sprague today, the prosecution never once tried to imply that the suicide attempt wasn't serious...🙄
@TheCarolErskine This doesn't surprise me at all. Watching the Clancy trial, I've repeatedly had the feeling the prosecution was being given far too much leeway.