@joezif@DeniseC48200342@doctoraligator@TheBMA But blaming uk grads or calling them racist is just not really true or fair or the solution. The solution would actually be to increase the number of training positions generally
@joezif@DeniseC48200342@doctoraligator@TheBMA At the end of the day prioritising uk trained doctors for training positions was needed. IGMs should fill any posts not taken by traniees here thats how it works in everybother country. If there aren’t any posts for IGMs then maybe its question of not enough jobs generally
@joezif@DeniseC48200342@doctoraligator@TheBMA No its not because they didn’t do well enough its because the competition ratios have gone crazy with training positions. Its not excluding IGMs, how would you change the system then ? Go back to how it was before where essentially uk grads unable to get training jobs?
@joezif@DeniseC48200342@doctoraligator@TheBMA Competition ratios of 16:1 for some specialties it had clearly gotten out of hand and needed changing its not just a job. Drs want to progress and get trained. People shouldn’t be berating doctors for wanting to be prioritised for training jobs, we wouldn’t expect to be priority
@doctoraligator@TheBMA Then there needs to be more funding given for jobs in the NHS. But unfortunately there isn’t enough money in the NHS for training places and LED jobs. Surely its better to have more people in training?
@Usman_Qur@doctoraligator@TheBMA At the end of the day I would not expect to be prioritised in another country. The same way if youve not done medical training in the uk or done foundation programme you shouldn’t be priority over those that have. Taxpayers money pays for training doctors. Its not rigging
@joezif@doctoraligator@TheBMA That I do agree it shouldn’t have been done mid cycle and prior to applications but it’s not fair that taxpayers money goes on training uk grads and they don’t get priority in the country where they have trained.
@theveindoc@jim_crawfurd Also most graduates don’t study for 5 years on a very intensive course shouldn’t be controversial to say that doctors should be high earners
@theveindoc We don’t earn £52000 straight out of uni this is all lies it’s more like 32000 basic and 40000 if ur on a job with nights/oncalls please stop spreading misinformation
@Adejibo we can respect IMGs without putting UK grads down. At the end of the day virtually every other country prioritises their own grads first, the UK was just late to implement this. It’s nothing against IMGs but a lot of taxpayers money goes into training UK grads.
@OliverRyanUK Your saying all of this but you do realise that the public needs doctors more than doctors need the public we can get jobs anywhere in the world where we are actually appreciated it’s only good will doctors want to work in the nhs
@sophielouisecc It’s not just about pay Sophie, 30,000 doctors applied for speciality training for only 10,000 jobs we cant get jobs yet the nhs is so understaffed, training for doctors is appalling aswell a lot needs to change its not just about money
@irenegarth1946@LBC We aren’t talking about teachers maybe teachers should go on strike to fight for better pay theres no need to compare to other professions and drag everyone down thats what’s wrong with this country its a race to the bottom mentality