@FillmoreFanatic I think it just seemed significant that a progressive could win in orange county but that was predicated on a type of politics that could never win in non wealthy areas lol
her whole brand was The Technocratic Progressive with Charts and then she ran an entire campaign on lazy slopulism like eliminating the state income tax for non-billionaires
kind of thing that only works when you're representing Orange County and your core voter is a corporate lawyer who used to lay wreaths at the reagan shrine but watches MSNBC 7 days a week now
steve king getting forced out in a republican primary for white nationalism was sort of the final vestige of the Old Times. he'd get 90% of the vote now
kind of astounding how California is the one place in America where old school machine politics are still robust...absolutely no one knows who Becerra is but The Party coalesced around him so he's going to win
@ettingermentum i think it's just that the story is from 2023. it contradicts the "he lost himself in PTSD but is a changed man now" narrative that was compelling
yes people who pay keen attention to politics know who Beccera is, you're kind of making my point for me. the average voter absolutely does not pay attention to backbench congressmen from the greater LA metro or to a Biden cabinet official that they barely let on TV
The "machine politics" talking point is making less sense every time you guys repeat it, and I think not knowing who was head of HHS under Biden during the Covid pandemic is kind of telling on yourselves
@KenanPerry@ptkrje my centrist take is that Israel is obviously not on the verge of collapse but a country that enlists America in a war against Iran and still loses is not on the cusp of establishing regional hegemony or Greater Israel or whatever
@cowabungatime Bill Maher liberals who will never vote for a progressive and cynically used vote blue no matter who to cajole bernie fans in 2020 don't have an actual constiuency outside twitter and media sinecures
@cowabungatime all this discourse is basically pointless because ~99% of party line democrats will fulsomely vote for Platner in november and Maine swing voters are 65 years old white women
@cowabungatime@EricMGarcia especially when the only real people insistent on hammering this are Cuomo democrats who are going to endorse Rubio 2028 and a jilted ex-staffer