You had to misquote me just to have something to answer. I never said UNCLOS "doesn't apply to anyone." I said it isn't the applicable treaty law between Turkey and third States. Pacta tertiis, VCLT Art. 34. That's not advanced theory. Your Greek first-years might want to read it before you send them after someone trained at UToronto. No Greek law school comes close in the rankings, and on this showing, neither do you.
And thank you for "a survey ship does seismic surveys too." You just made my point for me. Seismic surveying of a continental shelf isn't cable-route mapping. It's exactly the activity that needs coastal-State consent. You argued yourself into a corner and then announced you'd won.
In one thread you've conceded the seismic work, dropped the UNCLOS argument you opened with, and swapped legal reasoning for condescension. Generous of you to grant me permission to delete my post. I'll return the favour: you have my permission to delete your whole account. It's the only argument you haven't lost.
P.S: LMFAO. A marble statue first called me an anon (which clearly I am not, that is my face and real name you retard) then questions my credentials. Who the fuck are you, absolute clown?
@neoaegean@asaasa1881 Insane claims are coming from the Greek side. You basically have no coasts in the Eastern Mediterranean but claim that you own all of it because of a couple of rocks with barely any people living on them.
Cute, from a marble bust. I post under my name and face. You're the anon here.
Now look at what you just did. You argued Turkey isn't bound by UNCLOS, then spent the whole thread citing UNCLOS Art. 79 and an ILA paper interpreting UNCLOS. Pick one. If UNCLOS doesn't apply, your cable carve-out goes with it. That leaves customary law, where continental shelf rights exist ipso facto (North Sea Continental Shelf, ICJ 1969) and there's no settled exception for "surveys we'd rather not ask permission for."
"Turkey having a shelf there is arguable" confuses entitlement with delimitation. Every coastal State has a shelf. Where the line falls is disputed. That doesn't make it a free-for-all for whoever turns up with a sonar.
No seismic needed for cables, you say. Then explain the seismic gear on the survey ship.
On France: even the Greek opposition called the note verbale a tacit acknowledgment of Turkish claims, and PASOK took it to the European Parliament. Athens first said only the French company had contacted Ankara, then admitted the French state sent a formal note. It still won't publish it. Turkey logged the survey as consented in NAVTEX 1127/26. If the note said otherwise, someone would have waved it around by now.
You started with caps lock certainty and ended with "arguably." Even your own source didn't believe you. Take the L quietly. I mean why are every Greek online such losers and think they have the utmost understanding of int’l law when they don’t have the slightest clue.
Three problems, since you clearly skipped the reading.
1The ILA is a learned society, not a legislature. An interim committee report is scholarly opinion, a subsidiary means under Art. 38(1)(d) ICJ Statute. Your own screenshot says "arguably." You built your whole case on the word "arguably."
2Art. 79 isn't the free pass you think it is. Cable laying is subject to the coastal State's right to take reasonable measures for exploring its shelf (79(2)). A survey running seismic instruments produces resource-relevant data, which is the core of Art. 246(5)(a). Read past the first paragraph next time.
3Practice beats commentary. France notified Ankara through diplomatic channels before Abeille Marengo sailed. Paris understood the law better than you do. Continental shelf rights exist ipso facto (Art. 77(3)). No permission slip from a committee needed.
Highlighting a PDF in orange isn't legal analysis. Leave the law to lawyers like me.
@Argadevs@IsraelMilitaryC It is international waters but also Turkish EEZ. Any research requires proper clearance from the Republic of Türkiye. The research vessel is being escorted in the Turkish EEZ with our consent.