@lizyeld Anyone with a conscience would agree laughing at migrant dying, or revelling in the death of a mother is bad behaviour. If you don’t see it that way, then that’s all I need to know
I am a rape survivor. I am also a survivor so far of justice for innocent men scotland (luckily they’ve not targeted me online yet, but after my sentencing soon they might) 1/3
@lizyeld Because laughing at migrants dying, and at a mother taking her own life is not fitting of anyone running any organisation. JIMS could have an ear with MSPs for example if this kind of this was eliminated from the leadership positions
Seeing the messages from Marsha Sturgeon to a now ousted director of Justice for innocent men scotland really disturbing. Maybe it’s time for JIMS to take accountability re bullying, both outwith and inside their organisation?
@lizyeld I actually tend to prefer civility Liz. Why is calling out bad behaviour seen as targeting? If not criticism can be taken, then that’s a problem in itself. As a director she has an obligation to be professional. That’s not what I see, and I don’t see the problem in highlighting
@lizyeld@EmpowerInnocent@AAFAI_org@FACTukorg She lied about another director adding in a family member of a grooming gang. She said she had been bullied for 2 years by someone who’s known about her for less than a year. Amongst many others. Your blind faith in this person is why jims will never progress
@justicelog I’m really only referring to rape. And I also think it depends on the sentence. If someone is sentenced to say 15 years, that’s determined on the seriousness of the offences. I wholeheartedly believe that sentence should be served to the maximum
@justicelog I don’t disagree that other offences can leave lifelong harm. The difference is that rape isnt for financial gain, or anger in the moment. It’s an intentional act of domination and violation for the offender’s own gratification or control. That makes it fundamentally different.
@justicelog rape and other so’s involve a deliberate, profound violation of another person’s autonomy. There are no excuses for that. Other offences can arise from a range of circumstances, sexual offences warrant a different approach because of their nature and the lasting harm they cause.
@justicelog@proudmanslaw I understand your concern, and I agree rehabilitation should be far better in custody than it often is. If prisons aren’t providing that, the answer is to improve rehabilitation in prison, not to remove custody for exceptionally serious crimes. I just can’t see any alternative.
@justicelog@proudmanslaw 2. Justice isn’t only about changing offenders, it’s also about recognising the gravity of what they did, acknowledging the harm to the victim, deterring others, and maintaining public confidence. Rehabilitation should absolutely happen, but accountability has to come first imo
@justicelog@proudmanslaw 1. But rehabilitation and punishment aren’t mutually exclusive. This was an exceptionally serious crime. If offences like this don’t result in a meaningful custodial sentence, it sends a dangerous message that they’re somehow not that serious.
@justicelog@proudmanslaw Justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done. There needs to be a punishment for rape, and that is why a custodial sentence was necessary. I’m not entirely convinced as of yet that rehabilitation works for rapists, but punishment might