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[liucao @liucao17]

@_SaxX_ Je demande solonellement aux hacker de bouger leur fion. que nous atteignons les 1000 hack pour 2026, faire un bon gros record bien dur a depasser !

[liucao @liucao17]

oh i care about them... i care about the fact that this same industry push months of crunch (rockstar is well known for it) making their life a pure hell.
I care also them.

But, ok, what is your solution about all those problem of this industry being not aboug gamers, not about devs, but about profits ? continue this way ?

The problem is not cyberleek, it is Sam Houser, the one making decision, the one that force them to do those insane crunch. the one that just want to please taketwo. The problem is taketwo. But all them use devs as meatshields to continue all this, either spite on players but also on their own employees.

[liucao @liucao17]

just few leaks and taketwo already lost many on stock. more and taketwo will lose more. A bad sale, bad results for the game, and take2 will lose even more.

And with all big budget game failing those last years. will come time where investors will slowing think again before supporting such project...

[liucao @liucao17]

The community, you mean gta6 community ? if those leaks destroy the community, it had really weak foundations. The game will be released, all will be able to play, hundreds and hundreds of hours. Far more that what the story alone.

Gaming community ? if you consider that having your hobby totally around game for money/shareholders and not game for gamers, you have to understand that the community already is destroyed and is now in 2 parts. Many want to see the current industry to fall.

[liucao @liucao17]

Yep it is. But law is not based on morality. and here i spoke about moral. He did chose to do this, he knows he does illegal thing. On the other side, i see a corpo, hungry of money, which don't care ... don't respect customer. And this is what is my problem.

if gaming industry get a 2nd crisis, i won't cry. i will be optimist. the "only money" will fall, the "quality first" will resist.

[liucao @liucao17]

@Fugener1917 @zapactugta6 No, just cut in half. Elden Ring, GOTY : 200m, Cyberpunk, ok, was buggy, 400m. 1 billion would already make a wonderfull GTA6

They chose to take e massiv risk with such high budget... the bigger is the risk, the bigger is the fail. or the more chance a fail to come is.

[liucao @liucao17]

@LeonGroovIA @southgod_ Je ne l'ai pas dit mauvaise, mais clairement, pas le point fort : il y a bien plus de raison, tout GTA confondu, d'acheter du GTA que l'histoire.

si tu preferes avoir 8/10 ou 9/10 est top, mais quand le reste fait du 9 ou 9,5 voire 10/10 ?

[liucao @liucao17]

@Richarllison_co @zapactugta6 the game is not the story. story is a part of the game. you can have all story, and still not the full game

[liucao @liucao17]

100 pas 80. le jeu complet coute 100, et j'ai pas de souci avec les developpeurs. j'ai un souci avec Sam Houser, avec take two, avec les investisseurs qui en ont rien a foutre de toi et moi, mais tout à foutre de ce que les gens sont pret a raquer.

Ces dernieres années, Rockstar a cumulé pas mal en terme de "toi donner pognon". ils font pas pire que d'autres à ce sujet, je ne pretends pas cela .mais le "ils font tous ca, et untel fait pire" n'est pas une defense.

Comprends que le souci ne se limite pas a rockstar. et je ne le pretends pas, mais il participe au probleme.
GTA6 est la porte ouverte a tout un tas d'autres jeux pour 100 euros. et nous n'avons pas besoin de ca.

2 milliard, aller, 70 euros apres taxe pour etre large, c'est jamais que 300 million de vente pour etre remboursé. ca te parait immense ? peut etre mais alors il fallait ptet mettre que 1 milliard dedans. t'en fait pas, il fera les 300m vente, et toute les micro transaction feront la joie de taketwo et des dividendes liés. des gens raqueront des centaine voire milliers.
Voila ce qu'est rockstar... faire depenser des centaine et millier a certains pour nourir blackrock, vanguard et tout ceux derriere cela.

[liucao @liucao17]

@ItzWomp @zapactugta6 *look at what you get for 100 instead of 80* yes, the full game is 100. partial game is 80.
story is not the game, it is a part of the game

[liucao @liucao17]

oh mais si on se fit au passif de rockstar, et la tendance general de l'industrie, le crunch... est en cours depuis un moment. surtout la presence des DEUX reports qui laissent craindre le pire... et pas exclut que si l'histoire se mets a etre spoil... ils fassent pas un autre report. (mais ca sera bien sur la faute de cyberleek la maltraitance des devs, en rien Sam houser, taketwo, le board et au dessus)

[liucao @liucao17]

I will listen to a larger answer than only rockstar : i buy, play and enjoy game for their gameplay. The story comes after. I could get spoiled of the story i would still play a game i want to play.

BUT even more : i could be spoiled a movie i want to watch i would still go to theatre. The story is not only the ending but all along the telling. And happened more than once.

If a story is not interesting anymore once you know the ending, then the story was bad.

For a game ? the same, with an addition : the story can be boring i still play the game if the gameplay is good. if the gameplay is bad, lets get youtube video to get the story and ignore the game.

GTA6 will be good right ? good enough for you to have fun. Enough to continue to play after the end of the story right ? Like you probably did with GTA5, or RDR2 ? Because it was my case. So... the leak about the story would be "oh... shit i got spoiled... dear what do you want to eat tonight?" and nothing more.

[liucao @liucao17]

@Clemimat @zapactugta6 Grace a ubon crunch bien sale, bien problematique comme Rockstar sait si bien faire pour satisfaire Taketwo (mais heh, ce qui compte sont les devs il parait)

[liucao @liucao17]

@MiredaProds Also : fear of steam reviews, concurent player data... which could impact the overall view on the game. they want to controll what is said and thought about the success... 2 billions invested. They can't fail at all. 0 risk allow. not even the slightiest

[liucao @liucao17]

@jon_delorraine Et toujours pas de nouvelle de la santé du serpent ?

[liucao @liucao17]

@JulienChieze je vois pas le souci du spoiler

je veux dire, tu joues a GTA pendant plusieurs centaines d'heure pour l'histoire qui ... si elle se finit en 100h max c'est deja enorme (colossal) par rapport a ses predecesseur ?

[liucao @liucao17]

@koopaskull @farah_castillo Bah... GTA ? c'est fait pour ca aussi cette liscence de jeu. ..

[liucao @liucao17]

@AnAverageGamerX this. back to game for gamers, and have benefit just from the sales. the success. Less about "ok, fine game but, speak more about the important thing : all the money grab you have"

[liucao @liucao17]

@Spartan5271 "except violating the geneva convention" for now :-°