Logan Jameson

Canadian student at McMaster university studying economics. Here to talk about climate change and economics.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@janelleybelley2 @the_wiz001 @cathmckenna Did a quick google search "how much will canada's carbon tax cost" and clicked the first four most reputable sources that also mentioned the rebate. Global news was my favourite

https://t.co/S62j7aY3hD

https://t.co/o9P4TJQ1hc

https://t.co/rFsqRc8lDw

https://t.co/0rW44Ktl9C

[Andrew Leach 🇨🇦 @andrew_leach]

Gov't should act like a business and stop borrowing to finance growth!

What should gov't leverage ratio be? Higher or lower than your corp ratio? Should debt share of gov't spending be higher or lower than the debt share of the last project your company financed?

Silence.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@LoganMercer3 @Zyphex_Tempest @jkenney Well yeah I'm not a fan but what I said is really not a stretch at all.

The same thing applies with your employer. For simplicity imagine you make 100k a yr. If you get a raise to 101k a yr but Canada's inflation is 2%, you just got a wage cut in terms of purchasing power.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@LoganMercer3 @Zyphex_Tempest @jkenney If you account for inflation I'm pretty sure he did give them a pay cut. It may be a nominal increase but in purchasing power he cut them.

Its not a fucked up point if view, it's just inflation. If your raise is less than inflation you lose buying power.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@LoganMercer3 @jkenney You realise kenny helped make the equalization formula. You probably dont even understand how it works either.

[Andrew Leach 🇨🇦 @andrew_leach]

Let's start the list:
-a $1.5b direct investment in KXL
-a $6 billion loan guarantee to KXL
-billions in reclamation funds to backstop what was supposed to be covered by an industry fund.
-$30 million/year industry promotion war room
-regulatory holidays during the pandemic

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@Tangomitteckel @NoelTurner194 @gray_sphere @cieloyla @FriendsOScience @RoyPentland @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TyotoRiffle @WayneAllanH @ergodrake @TQMKA @ClaireNewton79 @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @MichRogCook @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest Perfect example of a correlation fallacy.
Correlation is not causation here.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@cjtjgeol @ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @gray_sphere @ergodrake @ramspacek @highgrader9536 @cheryl1492 @Tangomitteckel @RoyPentland @AJamesW2 @WayneAllanH @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest That's completely inaccurate. Expertise in the physics of gases is essential but on it's own it doesnt tell you anything about factors like how living things influence our climate. That's just one example, of course I'm no expert but it's a lot more complicated than you say it is

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@gray_sphere @WayneAllanH @TQMKA @FriendsOScience @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @horrdorr @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @ClaireNewton79 @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind Yeah exactly, it helps raise share prices and make investors happy.

It's also somewhat of a hedge investment. It makes sure that even if their FF revenues fall they will make up for it with their green investments. That's just regular smart business and investing.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @TyotoRiffle @ClaireNewton79 @TQMKA @gray_sphere @ergodrake @horrdorr @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind You're getting hung up on word choice and phrasing. If you want me to be accurate I wouldnt call our current influence on earths climate as "controlling".

Really I was making the point that we arent trying to control earth's climate, we are trying to reduce our impact on it.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@TQMKA @gray_sphere @FriendsOScience @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @horrdorr @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind Raising capital is a pretty standard for emerging industries. It's pretty standard for a lot of industries actually.

I dont see anything unordinary or inherently sinister here.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind This is blatant gaslighting and you're not fooling anyone. At the very least, you implicitly denied the fact that smoking gives you cancer.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@TQMKA @gray_sphere @FriendsOScience @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @horrdorr @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind First off that doesnt really represent the "green movement" at all.

Secondly, what makes these green bonds sinister in your mind? Is it because they use the word green as a way of making them more attractive to investors?

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind You're back tracking Wayne, you almost explicitly denied the fact that smoking causes cancer.
If you weren't then why would you try and create doubt about it by referencing heavy smokers who didnt get cancer?

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @gray_sphere @TyotoRiffle @ClaireNewton79 @ergodrake @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind Yeah but we like tweets we actually agree with and have read. We dont just go through and start liking and retweeting every tweet made by someone we think might be on our side.

That one guy CJ liked and retweeted tweets made by a porn bot. Its completely brainless what you do.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@TyotoRiffle @gray_sphere @FriendsOScience @ergodrake @horrdorr @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @WayneAllanH @TQMKA @ClaireNewton79 @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind Yeah they blocked me a while back. I would run into them a lot on twitter because I'm canadian.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind They got a good laugh when you and the one Australian guy tried to convince me that smoking doesn't cause cancer. Then there was the anti vax stuff and obviously the climate science.

My friends and I think your ignorance is pretty funny, but also a bit scary as well.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @WayneAllanH @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind I mean obviously it's not impossible. If we wanted to raise global average temperatures we know we can do that.

But in that sense we want to stop controlling climate. The idea is for humans to stop influencing climate so it can do what it does naturally.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @gray_sphere @TyotoRiffle @ClaireNewton79 @ergodrake @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind Yeah I mean you are looking a little stupid here Wayne.

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @WayneAllanH @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind How is it impossible to control our emissions? It's in theory super easy to control emissions but it just depends if it is politically palatable and if it makes economic sense. You could cut emissions by making cars illegal, but that is neither politically palatable or economical

[Logan Jameson @LoganJameson4]

@WayneAllanH @ClaireNewton79 @TyotoRiffle @ergodrake @gray_sphere @AJamesW2 @cheryl1492 @cjtjgeol @TQMKA @horrdorr @MichaelMaus6 @Ike_Kiefer @alan_poirier @Carbongate @NoelTurner194 @RoyPentland @BodReturns @stevenjbernard @JaggerMickOZ @csfc67 @Michael46830937 @AndryGiles @RajagraUK @Altraider @Tangomitteckel @MichRogCook @FriendsOScience @Barbarajdurkin @NMorris472 @bbryson1961 @DCTFTW @automaticsteam @GillesnFio @JWSpry @TonyPrice241 @KinkerMichards @ThomasM15940165 @Lynn16174075 @Erst_Officer @RogTallbloke @Karajavuori @GraceIrene21 @fern_60 @Amilure1 @n0rssec @ramspacek @bluesjack42 @Hojpojj @clivehbest @no2wind I mean I cant say you're wrong here. But I do show my friends some tweets and they get a good laugh out of them sometimes, so it's a bit more than the 2 people.