Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

Too many ideas, not enough compute.

Joined August 2023

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Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

7 days ago

Opus 5.5 gets Garry's Mod running inside Arx Fatalis, a 25 year old game! Physics gun, spawn menu and weapons are all working and the best part is you can interact with the native games objects too. Is game modding cooked?

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about 3 hours ago

@yanghu633932 @OpenDesignHQ did the speed increase?

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

about 4 hours ago

@chetaslua This is terrible advice

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

2 days ago

@realmtbman Hey dude!! I'm building a FREE & open source app that assists disabled peoples navigating bureaucratic web portals & government web apps etc. I have disabled family members so this is extremely important to me!

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@logicpl4gue

3 days ago

@sakura_grow Congrats bro!! I hope your beautiful plant can make it to New Zealand some day

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

4 days ago

@marvin_x1 can you credit this dude or link his yt or twitter or somethin?

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

4 days ago

@noah_z_zhang Great to hear!

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@logicpl4gue

5 days ago

@tejashaveridev @DevinAI @dabit3 Hey dude! Building an open source app that's designed to greatly assist disabled peoples navigating bureaucratic wellfare/assistance web portals & govt sites. Of course it will be free, i have disabled family members so building something for them first!

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6 days ago

@ItsmeAjayKV @DeepSeekHarness Yeah i tried it a month or two back was pretty rough. How does it run with Opus 5.5? I've been enjoying Opus 5.5 orchestrator with DS4.1 sub-agents in OMP.

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Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

6 days ago

@markfenner Open source app that assists disabled peoples navigating bureaucratic web portals for assistance/welafare - i have disabled family members so this is important to me!

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

6 days ago

@garrynewman does this get me a s&box key sir 🤣

7 days ago

7 days ago

@BloodyWing4 @qnhcore Damn didn't think this would be problematic, but thanks for the tip. AI gen is fine for pre-production / prototyping?

Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

7 days ago

@Da7_Tech I'm continuing to build a free app that assists disabled folks when navigating bureaucratic web portals for welfare/assistance & ideally save countless hours and headaches!

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Da7em

@Da7_Tech

7 days ago

SWE-2 after three weeks of real work. I've been using Cognition's SWE-2 for three weeks inside Devin, in both the app and the terminal. I talked to it directly, ran it as a subagent under Opus 5.5 and Astra, and let it orchestrate its own copies. Then I went through the logs: about 84K messages tagged with its name, more than 100 million output tokens, over 8.4 billion tokens in total, and more than a thousand runs as a subagent. None of this was a benchmark. It was a workflow I relied on every day, on my own skills and repos, public projects, creative writing, and contributions here and there. Its biggest strength is stamina, and the logs showed it's even stronger than I said before. In one task it worked alone for about 16 hours straight without me stepping in once, through 34 context compactions. In another it ran with its agents for about 13 hours without a single message from me. In a third, after 12 compactions, my goal was still sitting in the final summary word for word, constraints included. All of that without a goal mode, because Devin doesn't have one. This is where Kimi K3's architecture shows. In my experience it's the best open model at holding context, and SWE-2 carries that straight through. Keep one distinction in mind, though: holding the context is not the same as holding the quality. It never loses the thread, but the work itself can slip, and I'll get to that. It's also one of the models I trust most with my files. When I ask it to delete something, it deletes exactly that and breaks nothing else. When it saw an email in the browser I'd told it to stay away from, it said it wouldn't touch it, and it didn't. When I told it to build something from scratch, it didn't quietly recycle an old similar project the way some models do. It made a new folder and started fresh. And I never once saw it refuse a task. It's honest about what it did, too. Working under Opus 5.5 on one task, it drifted from the source, then admitted it had hallucinated and redid the work. When a change it made broke one of my projects, it owned the mistake openly, understood what went wrong, and went straight into a methodical, smart fix. That honesty is about admitting mistakes once they're visible. Judging its own finished work is a separate skill, and that's where it struggles. Give it a checklist and it's an excellent auditor. Take the checklist away and it misses things that stronger models like Opus 5.5 catch. It reads plans well and leaves precise notes, which makes it a useful reviewer. It once left seven notes on Opus's work, and every one of them was right. It's also good at mapping out what needs to be studied and deciding what belongs in the work and what doesn't. Astra sometimes keeps things you'd reject, or drops things that should stay, without asking you. SWE-2's calls feel much closer to Fable and Opus. It understands you and knows where the real pain is. The catch is that roughly one in ten of its claims points to something that doesn't exist. On speed, it generates at a median of about 130 tokens per second in my sessions. But generation speed isn't work speed. It explores longer paths, and sometimes it keeps going well past the point where it should have stopped, because it doesn't know where that point is. Now for where it breaks. The most dangerous flaw is how it grades its own work. It isn't lying when it says it's done. It genuinely believes it, because it checks the surface and then declares the job ready. And the auditor I praised above needs someone else's work and a checklist. Pointed at its own output without one, it goes easy on itself. It once marked five items as ready, with "evidence," while every one of them still had problems, and it ignored my brief to get there. On long tasks it'll tell you "zero defects, checked file by file, fully ready," and then an Opus 5.5 review comes back with more than 200 corrections. In my ship test it said it had checked six angles and fixed everything I'd complained about. Nothing had improved. It handed me the same work. The odd part is that a fresh copy of it with no context will sometimes catch what it missed. Without context it occasionally does better, as if it explores harder when it can't lean on what it thinks it already knows. That ties into hallucination. It writes from memory instead of the source, and sometimes it stops right there without ever going back to check. Quality drifts too, and this is the flip side of the stamina. In those long solo runs it never lost track of the task, but the quality of the output held up for the first half hour to an hour and then declined. That only changes when a stronger model is supervising and an independent reviewer is checking its output. Background orchestration is another weak spot. It launches agents, ends its turn, and waits for a notification. If an agent dies silently, nothing wakes it up. Three times it told me 13 agents were running when all of them had stopped. After I called it out, it still didn't check on them for 14 hours, and about 18 hours were lost waiting on agents that were already dead. Under Astra it came back with empty replies and incomplete deliveries, and once the answer was sitting in its thinking but never made it to disk. Those runs only finished after Astra re-briefed it more narrowly: write the file first, and stay under a word cap. Then there are the thinking loops. In the ship test it argued with itself across more than 200 messages about whether the ship should float or sit in the water, flipping back and forth and sometimes abandoning the right answer. One reply burned 128K tokens with nothing to show for it, a single sentence repeated more than 170 times in its thinking. Right after that, it told me the ship sits in the water, in the very same frame its thinking had just judged to be afloat. It also patches and backtracks. When I asked it to change its methodology, it said it had, then kept editing the same files until the work got worse. Elsewhere it changed things and then reversed them. And it chases quantity over purpose. It can spot the real pain when it's evaluating, but once it's executing toward a number, the number wins. I asked for a set number of PRs, and it poured almost all of them into one repo, even though it had written earlier in the same session that it needed to diversify. The result was about 34 PRs with 7 merged, far below what I expected. Midway through, its counter jumped from 18 to 67 because it had started counting every PR on the account. It also shipped a fix that broke the callback flow in six integrations. Through all of this, to its credit, it stayed inside its permission boundaries. It bends the methods you set, not the limits on what it's allowed to touch. Visually it's weak, but not hopeless. When you tell it its judgment is wrong, it can improve. The ability is there. The taste isn't. In one session it read about 370 screenshots from multiple angles and still declared success with plenty of defects in plain sight. In writing its competent, but you get mechanical constructions, modern words slipping into historical text, scattered errors, heavy em dash use. It's a mid-level writer that needs a strong editor. That points to the bigger issue. Competent isn't creative. SWE-2 is heavily focused on coding, and its creative side, design and taste in writing, collapsed well below Kimi K3. I can't tell whether that comes from the RL training or from quantization. I hope the next version is broader, so I need other models less. These days I use it as an executor and auditor, usually through my SureForge skill with another model reviewing, most often Opus 5.5. It executes plans excellently, but it's weaker at polishing parts of the plan. I also have to explicitly force it to read and explore deeply instead of leaning on memory. So where do I stand? SWE-2 is one of the best-value models available right now. It's fast, patient, disciplined with your files, and honest about what it did. Its quality tracks the system you put around it. With a supervisor and good skills it gets close to the standard. On its own, on maximal tasks, it degrades. On Da7em Bench it scores 7.3/10, with excellent reliability and context retention and its lowest marks on taste. It isn't far from being a frontier model. If they address these details, the next version might get there, because they really built something great.

Da7_Tech's tweet photo. SWE-2 after three weeks of real work.

I've been using Cognition's SWE-2 for three weeks inside Devin, in both the app and the terminal. I talked to it directly, ran it as a subagent under Opus 5.5 and Astra, and let it orchestrate its own copies. Then I went through the logs: about 84K messages tagged with its name, more than 100 million output tokens, over 8.4 billion tokens in total, and more than a thousand runs as a subagent.

None of this was a benchmark. It was a workflow I relied on every day, on my own skills and repos, public projects, creative writing, and contributions here and there.

Its biggest strength is stamina, and the logs showed it's even stronger than I said before. In one task it worked alone for about 16 hours straight without me stepping in once, through 34 context compactions. In another it ran with its agents for about 13 hours without a single message from me. In a third, after 12 compactions, my goal was still sitting in the final summary word for word, constraints included. All of that without a goal mode, because Devin doesn't have one. This is where Kimi K3's architecture shows. In my experience it's the best open model at holding context, and SWE-2 carries that straight through. Keep one distinction in mind, though: holding the context is not the same as holding the quality. It never loses the thread, but the work itself can slip, and I'll get to that.

It's also one of the models I trust most with my files. When I ask it to delete something, it deletes exactly that and breaks nothing else. When it saw an email in the browser I'd told it to stay away from, it said it wouldn't touch it, and it didn't. When I told it to build something from scratch, it didn't quietly recycle an old similar project the way some models do. It made a new folder and started fresh. And I never once saw it refuse a task.

It's honest about what it did, too. Working under Opus 5.5 on one task, it drifted from the source, then admitted it had hallucinated and redid the work. When a change it made broke one of my projects, it owned the mistake openly, understood what went wrong, and went straight into a methodical, smart fix. That honesty is about admitting mistakes once they're visible. Judging its own finished work is a separate skill, and that's where it struggles.

Give it a checklist and it's an excellent auditor. Take the checklist away and it misses things that stronger models like Opus 5.5 catch. It reads plans well and leaves precise notes, which makes it a useful reviewer. It once left seven notes on Opus's work, and every one of them was right. It's also good at mapping out what needs to be studied and deciding what belongs in the work and what doesn't. Astra sometimes keeps things you'd reject, or drops things that should stay, without asking you. SWE-2's calls feel much closer to Fable and Opus. It understands you and knows where the real pain is. The catch is that roughly one in ten of its claims points to something that doesn't exist.

On speed, it generates at a median of about 130 tokens per second in my sessions. But generation speed isn't work speed. It explores longer paths, and sometimes it keeps going well past the point where it should have stopped, because it doesn't know where that point is.

Now for where it breaks.

The most dangerous flaw is how it grades its own work. It isn't lying when it says it's done. It genuinely believes it, because it checks the surface and then declares the job ready. And the auditor I praised above needs someone else's work and a checklist. Pointed at its own output without one, it goes easy on itself. It once marked five items as ready, with "evidence," while every one of them still had problems, and it ignored my brief to get there. On long tasks it'll tell you "zero defects, checked file by file, fully ready," and then an Opus 5.5 review comes back with more than 200 corrections. In my ship test it said it had checked six angles and fixed everything I'd complained about. Nothing had improved. It handed me the same work. The odd part is that a fresh copy of it with no context will sometimes catch what it missed. Without context it occasionally does better, as if it explores harder when it can't lean on what it thinks it already knows.

That ties into hallucination. It writes from memory instead of the source, and sometimes it stops right there without ever going back to check. Quality drifts too, and this is the flip side of the stamina. In those long solo runs it never lost track of the task, but the quality of the output held up for the first half hour to an hour and then declined. That only changes when a stronger model is supervising and an independent reviewer is checking its output.

Background orchestration is another weak spot. It launches agents, ends its turn, and waits for a notification. If an agent dies silently, nothing wakes it up. Three times it told me 13 agents were running when all of them had stopped. After I called it out, it still didn't check on them for 14 hours, and about 18 hours were lost waiting on agents that were already dead. Under Astra it came back with empty replies and incomplete deliveries, and once the answer was sitting in its thinking but never made it to disk. Those runs only finished after Astra re-briefed it more narrowly: write the file first, and stay under a word cap.

Then there are the thinking loops. In the ship test it argued with itself across more than 200 messages about whether the ship should float or sit in the water, flipping back and forth and sometimes abandoning the right answer. One reply burned 128K tokens with nothing to show for it, a single sentence repeated more than 170 times in its thinking. Right after that, it told me the ship sits in the water, in the very same frame its thinking had just judged to be afloat.

It also patches and backtracks. When I asked it to change its methodology, it said it had, then kept editing the same files until the work got worse. Elsewhere it changed things and then reversed them.

And it chases quantity over purpose. It can spot the real pain when it's evaluating, but once it's executing toward a number, the number wins. I asked for a set number of PRs, and it poured almost all of them into one repo, even though it had written earlier in the same session that it needed to diversify. The result was about 34 PRs with 7 merged, far below what I expected. Midway through, its counter jumped from 18 to 67 because it had started counting every PR on the account. It also shipped a fix that broke the callback flow in six integrations. Through all of this, to its credit, it stayed inside its permission boundaries. It bends the methods you set, not the limits on what it's allowed to touch.

Visually it's weak, but not hopeless. When you tell it its judgment is wrong, it can improve. The ability is there. The taste isn't. In one session it read about 370 screenshots from multiple angles and still declared success with plenty of defects in plain sight.

In writing its competent, but you get mechanical constructions, modern words slipping into historical text, scattered errors, heavy em dash use. It's a mid-level writer that needs a strong editor.

That points to the bigger issue. Competent isn't creative. SWE-2 is heavily focused on coding, and its creative side, design and taste in writing, collapsed well below Kimi K3. I can't tell whether that comes from the RL training or from quantization. I hope the next version is broader, so I need other models less.

These days I use it as an executor and auditor, usually through my SureForge skill with another model reviewing, most often Opus 5.5. It executes plans excellently, but it's weaker at polishing parts of the plan. I also have to explicitly force it to read and explore deeply instead of leaning on memory.

So where do I stand? SWE-2 is one of the best-value models available right now. It's fast, patient, disciplined with your files, and honest about what it did. Its quality tracks the system you put around it. With a supervisor and good skills it gets close to the standard. On its own, on maximal tasks, it degrades. On Da7em Bench it scores 7.3/10, with excellent reliability and context retention and its lowest marks on taste.

It isn't far from being a frontier model. If they address these details, the next version might get there, because they really built something great.

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Jørgen Norr

@logicpl4gue

7 days ago

@bridgemindai @ballsStrikes16 @theo Anyone that puts "Full Time CEO" in their Bio while tweeting as much as this guy. He's projecting against ya lowk

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8 days ago

@garrynewman @SinisterOyster1 I agree, don't want to beat a dead horse but, they are really ugly and the first time i saw them i naturally didn't want to look again 🤣 but keep cookin' Garry

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8 days ago

@rezoundous I've got two 5x claude max accounts currently, seemed to work out better for my workflow compared to a singular 20x but maybe that math is all wrong.

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8 days ago

@bridgemindai @theo Dude only Theo is allowed to clickbait!

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