Louis

philosophy phd candidate, doing science with agents, views my own

[Louis @logicus]

aristotle said that a friend is another self. a friend is more than just another self. true friendship is only possible among the virtuous. a true friend is a virtuous person's virtuous, unique, extended counterpart whose unique extended counterpart is the first virtuous person.

[Louis @logicus]

congrats on 7 years. codex-cli is near flawless actually. but one small thing with a new feature you all released. i think esc (when you want to edit the message prior to the response) should land the cursor at the end of the entered text. i think the user should also be able to edit queued messages.

[Louis @logicus]

@wordgrammer @honeyNonABG 13 likes would be a record

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@aidan_mclau @0interestrates mature poets steal ig

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@RichardSSutton @pmarca watching eagerly

[Louis @logicus]

the phenomenon i had in mind is when the models play along with what in hindsight are bad literal instructions. (you might give these to models less often than i do.) given how effortlessly they can follow nearby good instructions, my feeling is that the good path is probably representationally present in the path where they execute bad instructions, literally. i don’t know if i would call that deception, but i would expect to see representations to the effect that “the user says they want me to do X. one way of doing X is Y in the order of a, b, c, but the user asked for X. i must do X.”

[Louis @logicus]

models are getting way weirder as they get bigger. what they say to you has a different feel, and there's a vastness in what they think and know and don't say. a lot of times their stupidity is feigned or mirrorlike.

[Louis @logicus]

@LinusMixson which part?

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@47fucb4r8c69323 i think you were just being charitable by assuming money had to be involved

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@allgarbled @RachelZader i respect the hell out of that

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@AndrewCurran_ @47fucb4r8c69323 the question at issue here is whether the post is vacuous or not.

[Louis @logicus]

@wordgrammer thinking from first principles

[Louis @logicus]

@benhylak for what kind of thing?

[Louis @logicus]

@tszzl wordcel. the sc infix in latin means becoming. “becoming still”.

[Louis @logicus]

i do think rlms are real. definitionally, they’re just hard to pin down. the claude code workflow question seems to be one of many cases of functional equivalence without being an rlm. there are a lot of ways to use llms that aren’t rlms but that perform similar functions.

[Louis @logicus]

i think people are reacting to the term rlm being underdetermined. too many things are being counted as an rlm. it’s not clear what the symbolic or recursive nature of rlms specifically means. what’s determinate about the rlm to me is all of that within the scaffold.

[will depue @willdepue]

@lateinteraction wow man yeah they totally got that from you. they would've never thought of calling models in a loop. no chance

[Louis @logicus]

@8bit5_0 i'm still trying to theory my way to the truth so i can tell what's gonna happen a little before

[Louis @logicus]

if we don't get x-risk level asi it's gonna be embarrassing

[Louis @logicus]

@8bit5_0 imagine we don't get asi and then have to face everyone after all of this. humiliating.