You hold a UN mandate to defend universal human rights, not to decide which nations stand “on the side of justice” based on a football result. Praising Spain is one thing; implying that 46 million Argentines represent the opposite of courage, dignity, and justice is collective stigmatization. Hypocrite.
Show me the picture of the French players watching Argentina lift the trophy in 2022. You won’t find one—yet somehow, nobody called that “unsportsmanlike.”
Our players were looking toward their fans, their families, their people, not at a trophy being passed from Trump to a monarch. If that doesn’t even register as a contradiction in your moral standards, then this was never about sportsmanship, but about classic European xenophobia.
You're just playing dumb, and you know it. (https://t.co/OEz0STRr1s). Should I also bring up the police repression of Argentine fans at the match in Rio?
Go ahead with the hate and xenophobia. You clearly don’t give a damn about racism, you just hate Argentina and will fall for any propaganda that supports your own hate. And honestly, that’s your right. Hate us all you want. Just stop disguising it as moral concern.
I'm out.
A lecture on class from someone who not only helps fund a monarchy, but still bows to it—despite that monarchy protecting a prince with well-documented ties to Jeffrey Epstein and serious sexual-abuse allegations. Very classy, England. You have no moral authority to lecture anyone about anything.
Está claro que la campaña anti Argentina tiene un componente orgánico propio de los tiempos de odio que se viven. Ahora, lo que me preocupa: ¿de dónde salió y a dónde va? ¿Quién la orquesta? ¿Cómo defendernos? ¿Hay instrumentos políticos / gubernamentales para que se investigue y se detenga? ¿Realmente Cancillería puede hacer algo? ¿Existen tecnologías para determinar su origen? ¿Cómo se frena esta propaganda?
Hoy es Argentina, un pequeño experimento en el escenario más importante a nivel global y con la figura más famosa del mundo a la cabeza. Es el blanco fácil. ¿Pero quién va a ser el próximo? ¿Y con qué objetivo, más allá de desprestigiar una selección de fútbol en el mundial?
And what you’re not able to understand is that “we try harder” is not an argument. It’s just national self-congratulation.
Brazil has its own deep problems with racism, police violence, inequality, and institutional impunity. Argentina has serious problems too. The difference is that I can acknowledge mine without using yours to justify hatred against an entire nationality. You clearly can’t.
You keep proving my point while acting like a five-year-old desperately searching for another fight.
And “he was convicted in Brazil” is hardly the devastating argument you think it is. Recent Brazilian presidents have been convicted, arrested, prosecuted or impeached, and went back to power (Lula was elected again after his convictions were annulled).
We both know pretty well that the people who voted for Bolsonaro are the same who voted for Milei in Argentina and Trump in the US. Same shit, different countries. So maybe just chill and stop using individual politicians to justify your prejudice against an entire country.
There’s no better or worse way to be racist—it all comes from the same place. The Argentine girl who used that racial slur was widely condemned and mocked in Argentina. And the president you’re referring to was so unpopular that he couldn’t even run for a second term.
But if that’s the standard you want to apply, why not bring up Bolsonaro’s countless racist and misogynistic remarks and accusations? https://t.co/3DbaYiireF
Do they represent your entire country? Of course not. So why should the actions or words of a few individuals be used to define every Argentine?
None of you care about racism, really. You just use it selectively as a weapon whenever it helps justify your hatred of an entire country.
@Rodrigomap2@Alonso_GD Your Brazilian. Is YOUR racist society something to accept? Please, mind your own business. Yes: there are horrible racist people in Argentina, just like in every other country, including yours.
https://t.co/pqYpvURQ4g
@SAINt_Jodye@Alonso_GD Thanks for proving my point. "You are all the same", "everyone wanted you to lose", "vile and classless"... that's not football analysis. That's prejudice against an entire nationality.
Funny how this discourse is becoming exactly what it swears to condemn. These words (which contribute to an ongoing hatred campaign against an entire population) show how you’re not better than eurocentric and xenophobic campaigns that have ruled for centuries. Are you really using the word “savage” to talk about South America? Horrible, ignorant human beings.
My reply in @LANACION to @ishaantharoor's @NewYorker essay "I Won't Cry for You, Argentina": the last four standing were England, France, Spain… and Argentina — three empires, one country built from the rubble. Underdog credentials are extended only in defeat.
https://t.co/3SHKMtErsC
Los argentinos no somos europeos y tampoco latinos, somos argentinos y eso es lo que el mundo no acepta. Somos esa mezcla del bombo indígena con la guitarra española para crear la chacarera a la que despues se le suma el acordeón alemán para crear el chamame, somos la comparsa que es una adaptación de la música afro, somos todo y no somos nada según los estándares mundiales porque no aceptan que somos simplemente argentinos y estamos orgullosos de eso.
Don’t pretend your initial piece was innocent. You’re not “someone very far away”. You’re a journalist writing for one of the most prestigious magazines in the world. Carry that role with responsibility.
@NewYorker deeply disappointed by your editors who allowed such as disrespectful, unkind, shallow piece.
FYI to all English people out there: England REJECTS the name “‘Malvinas”, even as the Spanish translation. You can check it out here, where, by the way, it lists all the other colonized territories around the world: https://t.co/fS6OUeXE4d
Lo hermoso de que Inglaterra pida sanción de la FIFA por el mensaje de Malvinas es la paradoja: la sanción solo tiene sentido si se reconoce que, efectivamente, "Malvinas" se refiere a las islas.
Si "Malvinas" no fuera una forma válida de nombrarlas, sería una palabra cualquiera.
Pero al denunciarlo como un mensaje político, admiten justamente lo contrario: que "Malvinas" nombra un territorio en disputa, que el reclamo argentino existe y que "Falklands" no es un nombre neutral ni definitivo, sino atravesado por su propio imperialismo.
Y esa es la revolución: lograr que la frase "Las Malvinas son argentinas" siga disputando sentido, incomodando al imperio (que todavía, en pleno siglo XXI, tiene 14 naciones subordinadas al Commonwealth) y recordando que la ocupación, al menos en ese pedacito de tierra del sur global, nunca consiguió volverse completamente legítima.