@KemtrupTweets Definitely agree with the need for more resources- crisis services here ( non-gov) would crumble without volunteers. I’ve worked in community mental health and it was easy compared to those crisis lines.
@KemtrupTweets My training for the crisis line in Australia was actually mainly around listening skills, validation, reflection and risk assessment. We didn’t really suggest things, unless they had a plan which only few people did and then we would remind them of it.
@KemtrupTweets Yeah absolutely, I mean as I learn more about psychodynamic approaches I cringe at lots of stuff I hear but to be fair this is what is being taught- some of the things in the thread sound very much like dbt strategies so this kind of is ‘evidence based’
@JulianBurnside Diabolical, stupid, mean spirited, corrupt, yes I think it is a bad time. I remember the Howard and Ruddock years and I can’t decide which was worse, they knew exactly what they were doing whereas these idiots seem to believe their own lies
@KemtrupTweets However….. the people I spoke to on that line were some of the most complicated people I have ever worked with, it was extremely challenging work with people with chronic and severe mental illness and we were all volunteers. I believe this is still the case in Australia mostly
@KemtrupTweets Have you worked on a crisis line? I ask because I did while I was doing my honours in psychology, so I had no actually experience in therapy or counselling. We were all laypeople who did really excellent training actually- better than some at uni
@DHughesy I wouldn’t be surprised if the old white guy has issues with consent. I hope your dog bites them both, and then kicks them in the balls. Not sure how dexterous and we’ll trained your dog is Dave but I’d definitely vote for him/her over those two clowns
@dickonb@JonathanShedler Unfortunately I can’t see the rest of this thread because @JonathanShedler blocked me! Pretty fragile response for someone who has some pretty strong opinions. I was not abusive or even rude, I just disagreed. How odd, I wonder what this means?
@dickonb@JonathanShedler Exactly! So much wonderful work occurs inside public health or other non- for - profit organisations. I love that groups and projects like AMBIT help clinicians ( like those of us who work in CAYMHS) working on the coal face
@dickonb@JonathanShedler Love your work by the way Dickon, the idea that people like you are lacking in integrity because you have a commitment to serving the marginalised communities that could never access private therapy is ridiculous. One wonders if speaks to some projection on Jonathan’s part
@dickonb@JonathanShedler It’s disrespectful and absurd, and omnipotent to suppose he can speak for all systems in all countries. I’m not sure what the purpose of many of his communications are of late, there seems to be an increasing amount of negativity that doesn’t seem helpful to anyone.
@bturner4559@JonathanShedler Indeed, so back to the days of therapy being only for the rich I suppose…. It’s a privileged position being expressed by a man with considerable privilege. I’m disappointed to see him express such offensive, polarising statements.
@tyrellweyland@TheShr1nk Good idea to talk it through in that case, it could be really important- even that if you feel it’s not a big deal- that may be important too. This stuff is the gold of therapy really, working through misunderstandings
@DrMindermast @Boo_orgpsych @TheShr1nk I don’t subscribe to an idea that therapy is skill based, doing to, activity the things you mentioned. I wonder whether you apply yourself to lovemaking the same way you would learn those skill?That would be a little absurd, no? You can learn tips but you need a responsive other
@DrMindermast @Boo_orgpsych @TheShr1nk Depends on the kind of therapy you are doing? If it’s real therapy there’s not really outside tasks, the session is the therapy.
@TheShr1nk I feel like it would be incredibly therapeutic if he would Make out with me, maybe just once or twice, or let me move into his house ( like Freud did on a number of occasions) apparently it’s not within the “frame” and he would be “de-registered”.