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[донк @magarinjo1]

@sdjtdam монтеругло*

[донк @magarinjo1]

@lukarije Знам само да си ме изненадио с промјеном. Питам се види ли ко да нема више фифи а с Ериком дебатује православни Катакури.

[донк @magarinjo1]

@dumboxrisen @ErickYbarra3 Didn't say it does. But energies also manifest. False pair.

[донк @magarinjo1]

A short 🧵of objections to the respectable scholar Erick Ybarra, in relation to Nicene-Constantinopolean Creed being incomplete on the procession of the Holy Spirit.

With predominantly Western sources.👇🏻

[Erick Ybarra @ErickYbarra3]

Every once in a while, you run into an EO who insists that the Creed of 381 explicitly says everything the Church believes about the procession of the Holy Spirit.

[донк @magarinjo1]

@dumboxrisen @ErickYbarra3 I meant the NC Creed already adresses everything. Adding anything is unnecessary.

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@dumboxrisen @ErickYbarra3 I don't know my Gregory of Cyprus well, does he see EM as ad intra or ad extra?

[Wolfgang @Zalmoxis7534]

“For our nature contracted the disease of sin because of the disobedience of one man, that is Adam, and thus many became sinners. This was not because they sinned along with Adam, because they did not then exist, but because they had the same nature as Adam, which fell under the law of sin. Thus, just as human nature acquired the weakness of corruption in Adam because of disobedience, and evil desires invaded it, so the same nature was later set free by Christ, who was obedient to God the Father and did not commit sin.”

-St. Cyril of Alexandria, Commentary on Romans 5

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@ErickYbarra3 Ok, this thought has some merit. I could object somewhat, but willing to concede on account of your academic status.

[донк @magarinjo1]

@ErickYbarra3 Not merely doctrinal. That's why he stressed 'in words and sense'. Hard to think he didn't have the Creed in mind.

[донк @magarinjo1]

@cappadocianist You misunderstood me. The point was not to say Alcuin or Leo III denied procession from the Son. That is simply not true. The point was they objected to adding 'et filio' to the Creed. This is what the letter is about.

We're talking filioque by phrase, not doctrine.

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@ErickYbarra3 Can exhaustiveness be extracted from session V?

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@cappadocianist I haven't done an extensive research on whether or not the letter is authentic though, and I invite anyone to correct me if that may be the case.

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@cappadocianist Added the note below.

[донк @magarinjo1]

Additional note: Leo III accepted the doctrine of procession from both the Father and the Son.

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[донк @magarinjo1]

A thing to note: Alcuin did not deny the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son.

Next: it is known that pope Leo III was against altering the NC Creed. A historical fact that he had the NC Creed inscribed on two silver tablets and placed into the Church of Saint Peter. Below them, another statement was inscribed:

I, Leo, set this up out of love and for the preservation of the Orthodox faith.

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@YrreCultureWar @lukarije Latinizer is when you disagree on a topic, thus you're a latin subversive.