@rightresponsem@WokePreacherTV As a follow up in listening to many of these who share your view... Can women teach in any context? Like professions or skills? Or is it only in matters of faith and morality?
@rightresponsem@WokePreacherTV Joel a honest follow up question, would your position be that a woman has no ability to exhort a man to proper behavior as it can be seen as lecturing or teaching?
For instance as in Matthew 18 or as seen with the situation with Apollos in Acts.
Thanks.
@YonahMalakhi@rightresponsem@WokePreacherTV Brother, if you tell me that Christians have an infallible way of interpreting and understanding how to apply every text of scripture to modern context and it is just to read it, then I don't think you are aware of the distinctions or how your bias influenced your reading.
@YonahMalakhi@rightresponsem@WokePreacherTV The issue isn't allowing the Scripture to speak, but instead inserting foreign ideas into the text. If we love the scriptures we should seek their meaning and modern day applications. Joel has sought to apply a text outside its context and others are seeking consistency.
@WokePreacherTV@MikeSenders@rightresponsem Agreed. We cannot holistically use it or it loses its actual meaning. It has a context and should be protected in that context.
@MikeSenders@rightresponsem@WokePreacherTV Mike thank you. I would agree that publicly taking the role of pastor/elder is prohibited which is why a platform (church) would be against the teaching of scripture. However if a woman is not to teach or "lecture" would it not necessarily follow that she cannot correct?
@AnthonyRayGray@D_perrino@edstetzer I'm sorry that was your experience. I've been raised baptist and went to a Baptist college. We never affirmed that and specifically spoke out against that. Sounds like one bad experience.
@AnthonyRayGray@D_perrino@edstetzer If you are concerned about a double standard I understand the frustration, but the only other thing you could say is we should like Jesus did raise the standard towards perfection reflecting on His ability alone to merit our righteousness.
@Bible_Doctrines@Protestia Do adopted children count then for the ability to enter ministry?
How do you reconcile this with both early tradition of the church and the apparent ministry of those in the NT that do not appear to have been married or even with children?
Jordan Peterson doesnโt believe in God in the way that Christians do, and it is dishonest for him to speak in a way that will delude his less careful readers into believing that he does.
@ryanschatz My point was declaring that people should treat church as a family and making points related to commitment to church is hypocritical when you are currently not consistently a member involved in a church and have declared "the church I currently attend" and "sometimes I go to..."
@ryanschatz Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.
The Holy Bible: English Standard Version., p. Heb 13:17.
@ryanschatz Agreed. Elders are simply a role within the body. They ultimately submit to Christ as the over-shepherd and to the congregation where the authority of the Keys dwells.
@ryanschatz Actually To raise every member to the fullness of knowledge and behavior to the image of Christ is the goal. Equipping the saints to the fullness of the stature of Christ.
However, elder qualifications would not be for everyone as not everyone is called to that role.