Manu

26 y/o

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@NebsGoodTakes She shouldve linked a Wikipedia article on the nuances of non consensual sexual relationships

[Xena @xean_bean]

Hahahhahaha my dad just asked me if Robert Pattinson plays Batman lmao

[abi mosby @wcoodemons]

que buena peli brand new day y quien diga lo contrario no le sabe!!! puedo escribirte un libro entero de porque es una gran peli y como convierte a las pasadas de tom en una historia perfecta!!! GOD I LOVE SPIDER MAN SM MAN

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody YOU said "it’s not about the killing (something you ALREADY agree is not in the storytelling) it’s about how Batman goes about it and why.", then "he’s doing it for his own self-fulfillment. That’s wrong for very obvious reasons." WHY is it wrong? (2/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody You're running away again already?? You asked for an argument to be properly stated and I CITED YOUR WORDS! Genuinely, in good faith, what the fuck are you missing here???? Here goes round two: (1/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody No. See, now you are actually distorting my words and you're doing it willingly; very bad behavior, we all see what you're doing. I said, why is it wrong that Batman is doing crazy shit only for his self-fulfillment? That's your word, not mine. Why is that wrong?

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody Those were your words. So you're saying it's obvious why it's wrong that he's doing it for self-fulfillment. Go ahead, if it's so obvious, explain it. I agree that it's obvious, but maybe you have an alternative reason for it and I legit can't imagine what it is. (2/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody "What's immoral is the objective behind the killing yes." and earlier "Batman isn’t branding or trying to assassinate Superman bc of justice or to save lives, he’s doing it for his own self-fulfillment. That’s wrong for very obvious reasons." is exactly what you said. (1/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody The suspicions being that I believe the movie is making a very weird moral statement (self-serving acts are inherently wrong but don't think about the morality of killing!) and I think you're being intentionally or otherwise dishonest about it, yeah. I like this hill.

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody and here's an example of a Norman Person acknowledging that you can like a movie and also acknowledge that its morals are weird; it's okay! there's no need to word-salad your way out of it, unless you're insecure about your taste https://t.co/tD8t4IycM6

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody For instance, I think Batman Begins falls into this same problem and I really like it, but I'm not scared of saying the movie is lazy/flimsy about that, maybe even morally bankrupt, too. Not hard to bite the bullet when you've got guts. I guess men not brave!! (3/3)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody for context: here's the tweet from this cowardly dishonest subhuman piece of shit acknowledging that the movie wants us to have an issue with Batman being a selfish meanie, but for some reason not with him committing Actual Murder https://t.co/KmhhF1Qfmw

[For The Love of Cinema🎥🎬 @TEBerry2]

@manuelaag1999 @Jashmoody What’s immoral is the objective behind the killing yes. Killing for defense is not the issue but that’s not what Batman spends the majority of the narrative doing.

This is NOT hard to understand and you are going in circles trying to reframe my argument when it’s very clear.

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody Addendum: I will literally pay you however much real money you want if you attempt to actually counterargue the obvious moral cognitive dissonance explained above. With you guys it's always running away when having to answer questions, so I'm not surprised you left.

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody For instance, I think Batman Begins falls into this same problem and I really like it, but I'm not scared of saying the movie is lazy/flimsy about that, maybe even morally bankrupt, too. Not hard to bite the bullet when you've got guts. I guess men not brave!! (3/3)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody You're using a lot of words because you probably know it's a dumb position, so just to be sure: the movie thinks that Batman is wrong because he is being selfish, not because he is killing people; the killing is incidental; what's immoral is his attitude behind it. Yes? (2/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody You are trying to explain that, for some reason, we're meant to interpret that "doing something for your own self-fulfillment" is inherently wrong, but not that killing is inherently wrong?? this seems to be your position, and if it is then okay, that's your prerrogative. (1/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody you would have to argue that the "killing" part of the branding is irrelevant, or that somehow having someone else kill for you is sufficiently morally distinct from directly killing. why is branding wrong but directly killing them isn't? (2/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody what you describe IS the problem. The branding is framed as wrong here because it leads to people being killed. But we're supposed to ignore direct killings? If the branding is wrong because it leads to killing, why should we not factor direct killing into the equation? (1/2)

[Manu @manuelaag1999]

@TEBerry2 @Jashmoody We're going step by step here; I asked one very simple question: yes or no - do you think it's reasonable to assume from cinematic language that there is a connection between Batman's described brutality and inhumanity, and him killing people in the first 2 acts?