@thomas_roysdad@annielcrawford Yes! This is a very old practice recently abandoned. Probably for good reason, but this is how I grew up and it has a certain logic to it. I was surprised to hear someone like Moore from outside my subculture articulating reasons seemingly on his own that I have always heard.
@annielcrawford The reaction to this is starting to seem extreme. I grew up hearing all of the arguments that Dave Moore makes in a brethren church (think Amish) defending segregated seating. I don’t defend it, but it certainly wasn’t progressive! It’s quite an old fashioned practice.
@j_redemer The confusion you refer to seems to be something Jesus cheerfully contributed to, hence all the conditional statements about what is necessary to enter the kingdom of heaven.
@suzania This is so common with a certain kind of Reformed(?) orientation. I notice people at pains to explain away any suggestion that obeying Jesus’ teaching is necessary bc that implies “works salvation” and bad gospel. So weird how Jesus seems blissfully unaware of that problem.
@BiblicalBeauty You don’t think that a fairly obvious implication of Matt. 6:15 is that God’s forgiveness (and therefore entrance to heaven) is in some way conditioned on us forgiving others?
@BiblicalBeauty@roddreher Jesus doesn’t bother to make excuses for how badly one has been injured or how much one might not want to forgive. “…if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Matt 6:15
Ross is straightforwardly following this simple idea.
@JonahDispatch “How dare you suggest that TPUSA has misjudged the American mood due to their obsession with super online discourse! You must be trying an underhand swipe at Charlie!”
@megbasham@JonahDispatch My guess is that the incompetence Jonah is alluding to has little to do with Kirk’s absence, and everything to do with TPUSA’s assumptions about the kind of right wing identity politics that young people want. That isn’t an org struggling with leadership or logistics.
@itsme_urstruly Cantique de Jean Racine, by Gabriel Faure, sung by Voces8 Foundation Choir.
Paraiso, by the Philippine Madrigal Singers.
The Ground, by Ola Gjeilo.
Salutation, by Eriks Esenvalds, sung by the National Youth Choir of Great Britain.
Ave Maria, by Robert Parsons.